Vlad Tenev

not like a full system breach exploit sort of thing, but we've had some instances where relatively small amount of customer data was compromised.

I think the biggest instance was back in, I think it was 2021, end of 2021, one of our support agents got compromised and

Yeah, a relatively small set of customers, you know, had their names and other information revealed.

So still not great, but I think the impact was fairly well contained.

And is that a focus?

Huge focus.

Well defended.

Yeah, we've spent a lot of, a lot of our best people are on cybersecurity.

Yeah, because we have the crypto stuff.

And now with these AI tools, like I'm sure you've heard about Mythos, you essentially have to have no gaps.

It's a very high standard of correctness because you can't rely for very much longer on obscurity.

Yeah.

It used to be that, okay, well, the North Koreans can only, they only have so many engineers, so many offensive cyber experts.

So you just have to like not be the weak link.

But now we're entering into a world where you should just assume that you're being probed constantly.

And that just means that you have to be robust at all times.

Yeah, it was a big change for me.

But I think that we've kind of made it our own.

So I think the first thing about going public is there's a lot of rules.

You kind of encounter it through the IPO process itself.