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W. Bryan Hubbard

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
565 total appearances

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The Joe Rogan Experience
#2477 - Rick Perry & W. Bryan Hubbard

healthcare system as expeditiously as possible and make all of their resources available to explore the extent to which we can operationalize Ibogaine medicine as quickly as possible.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2477 - Rick Perry & W. Bryan Hubbard

And it's my hope and aspiration that we will see all of Native America join this effort before the end of this year.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2477 - Rick Perry & W. Bryan Hubbard

Tribal sovereignty is an area of the law with which I am not familiar.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2477 - Rick Perry & W. Bryan Hubbard

I would not be able to speak to the degree to which they could autonomously open a clinic.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2477 - Rick Perry & W. Bryan Hubbard

The most immediate issue would be related to the creation of a supply chain because you have traveled through interstate commerce in the U.S.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2477 - Rick Perry & W. Bryan Hubbard

states which theoretically restrict it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2477 - Rick Perry & W. Bryan Hubbard

However, there is one spectacular opportunity not just to expedite the creation of Ibogaine treatment access for Native America but for all of America.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2477 - Rick Perry & W. Bryan Hubbard

And this gets into federal right to try legislation authored by former U.S.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2477 - Rick Perry & W. Bryan Hubbard

Senator Kyrsten Sinema and signed by the president during his first administration in 2018.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2477 - Rick Perry & W. Bryan Hubbard

And what federal right to try legislation or the law provides is that once any medication makes its way through phase one safety testing within the FDA's process and

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2477 - Rick Perry & W. Bryan Hubbard

then anyone with a life-threatening condition for which that medication is being developed can request treatment with that medication and obtain it from a willing prescriber.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2477 - Rick Perry & W. Bryan Hubbard

What does that mean?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2477 - Rick Perry & W. Bryan Hubbard

That means that as soon as Texas or as soon as one of the Native tribes effectively completes a Phase I safety study under the language of the law,

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2477 - Rick Perry & W. Bryan Hubbard

anyone who has a life-threatening condition for which this medication is being developed, first and foremost, opioid dependency, can go and request and get the treatment.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2477 - Rick Perry & W. Bryan Hubbard

We have one complication.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2477 - Rick Perry & W. Bryan Hubbard

Presently, the Drug Enforcement Administration

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2477 - Rick Perry & W. Bryan Hubbard

in keeping with the practice of many government agencies that use their arbitrary authority to interpret law, has asserted that federal right to try does not apply to Schedule I substances.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2477 - Rick Perry & W. Bryan Hubbard

This means that based on not the language of the law, but on DEA's interpretation preference of that law,

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2477 - Rick Perry & W. Bryan Hubbard

Once Ibogaine clears through phase one, it would be disqualified for access under federal right to try because the DEA says that if schedule one substances were intended to be included, they would have been specifically listed in the legislation.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2477 - Rick Perry & W. Bryan Hubbard

When Kirsten Sinema, the author of the bill, explained to them that the language is unambiguous and it says any medication, their response was insolence.