W. Bryan Hubbard

So as we were walking along, we came to these two small bushes.

It takes for it about 10 years to come to maturation.

We come along this pathway and they were two shrubs, identical, growing just a couple of feet apart from each other.

And they pointed those out and said, what does that look like to you?

And I said, well, those are iboga shrubs.

And they smiled and they said, well, it would appear so because they are identical.

They said, but in nature, when you find an iboga shrub, you're going to have to be very careful to determine which one's which because in nature, it looks like they grow in pairs.

One is the real deal.

The other is its poison imposter.

And they grow together.

And they look identical?

They look identical.

How do you differentiate?

It's not until they get fully grown into their 10th year.

One bears fruit, which is the real deal.

and the other does not.

Now, how does that do you for the physical communication of a mystical, spiritual reality?

No.

When you see them grow in pairs, that's correct.

So there's one group of people who know how to differentiate