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W. Robert Godfrey

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2133 total appearances

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Renewing Your Mind
Introduction to the Middle Ages

And that empire continued until Constantinople was overrun by the Turks in 1453.

Renewing Your Mind
Introduction to the Middle Ages

So there is a Roman Empire really through the whole Middle Ages in the East.

Renewing Your Mind
Introduction to the Middle Ages

sometimes shrinking, sometimes growing, sometimes struggling, sometimes remarkably vital, and always there.

Renewing Your Mind
Introduction to the Middle Ages

And even when the Roman Empire in the East finally is snuffed out in 1453, it's not quite the end of the story because in the year 800, a king in France and Germany by the name of Charles

Renewing Your Mind
Introduction to the Middle Ages

is crowned Holy Roman Emperor.

Renewing Your Mind
Introduction to the Middle Ages

And the Roman Emperor in the East sends his approval for the appointment of a new Roman Emperor in the West.

Renewing Your Mind
Introduction to the Middle Ages

So in 800, the Roman Empire is revived in the West.

Renewing Your Mind
Introduction to the Middle Ages

Now, that Western Roman Empire survives down till

Renewing Your Mind
Introduction to the Middle Ages

It increasingly doesn't amount to much.

Renewing Your Mind
Introduction to the Middle Ages

The title increasingly becomes just a title, sort of in the way that for many, many years the monarchs of England were styled King of England and King of France, even though they never set a foot in France.

Renewing Your Mind
Introduction to the Middle Ages

Titles sometimes live on beyond realities, but still.

Renewing Your Mind
Introduction to the Middle Ages

In some formal sense, the Holy Roman Empire survives down until 1806 when Napoleon says, this silly thing is ended.

Renewing Your Mind
Introduction to the Middle Ages

Now we all know, at least it always used to be taught in schools, the essential character of the Holy Roman Empire was this.

Renewing Your Mind
Introduction to the Middle Ages

It was neither holy, nor Roman, nor an empire.

Renewing Your Mind
Introduction to the Middle Ages

But the power of the idea of continuity was so strong and so attractive

Renewing Your Mind
Introduction to the Middle Ages

that Charles, known to history as Charlemagne, Charles the Great, Charlemagne wanted to be invested with that dignity, with that title, and so it continued.

Renewing Your Mind
Introduction to the Middle Ages

Finally, really located in Austria, but still that title, still the coronation garb in Vienna, worn at the coronation of the Austrian emperors until 1806, styling themselves Holy Roman Emperors.

Renewing Your Mind
Introduction to the Middle Ages

One could even argue that beyond 1806 we see remnants of that Roman Empire.

Renewing Your Mind
Introduction to the Middle Ages

The Tsar in Russia insisted that Moscow, after the fall of Constantinople, became the third Rome.