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Can you define consent for me, please, Ms. Robinson?
Can you define consent for me, please, Ms. Robinson?
And is it your evidence that you were not free in this relationship?
And is it your evidence that you were not free in this relationship?
So the secret nature of a relationship doesn't mean it's not a consensual relationship. Is that fair?
So the secret nature of a relationship doesn't mean it's not a consensual relationship. Is that fair?
Okay.
Okay.
And when did you learn that it was prohibited by the rules of the school?
And when did you learn that it was prohibited by the rules of the school?
When was that conversation?
When was that conversation?
So that was in...
So that was in...
You went along with it. You didn't resist?
You went along with it. You didn't resist?
And you went along with it?
And you went along with it?
I'm going to suggest to you, Ms. Robinson, that there was active participation in the intercourse. Is that correct?
I'm going to suggest to you, Ms. Robinson, that there was active participation in the intercourse. Is that correct?
Respectfully, this is cross-examination. The question is simply whether or not there was active participation.
Respectfully, this is cross-examination. The question is simply whether or not there was active participation.
And the only reason today that you say you were not capable of consenting was because he was your teacher and you were a student. Is that fair?
And the only reason today that you say you were not capable of consenting was because he was your teacher and you were a student. Is that fair?
And the people in the band, were they all adults?
And the people in the band, were they all adults?
Okay. And so for you to be making money, you had a boyfriend, you were getting some semblance of stability. Is that fair?
Okay. And so for you to be making money, you had a boyfriend, you were getting some semblance of stability. Is that fair?
I'll move on. All those sexual interactions that you had after Belleville, you and him thought, you thought he was your boyfriend. Is that fair?
I'll move on. All those sexual interactions that you had after Belleville, you and him thought, you thought he was your boyfriend. Is that fair?
And you willingly have sex with him. Is that fair?
And you willingly have sex with him. Is that fair?
Is it fair to say you think Mr. Walker is a bad person now?
Is it fair to say you think Mr. Walker is a bad person now?
But at the time, you didn't have these negative feelings towards him. Is that fair?
But at the time, you didn't have these negative feelings towards him. Is that fair?
Thank you. So in my submission, the laws that applied in 1976-1977 are the ones that should be applied. There's a case law from the Supreme Court on the elements of the offense of rape.
Thank you. So in my submission, the laws that applied in 1976-1977 are the ones that should be applied. There's a case law from the Supreme Court on the elements of the offense of rape.
It talks about without her consent, which in my submission is force. Ms. Robinson's evidence was that there was no force.
It talks about without her consent, which in my submission is force. Ms. Robinson's evidence was that there was no force.
And in my respectful submission, the Crown has invited you to engage in conjecture and speculation as to what happened. Mr. Frank, anything else?
And in my respectful submission, the Crown has invited you to engage in conjecture and speculation as to what happened. Mr. Frank, anything else?
Even if the jury accepts the evidence that she was groomed, even if the jury accepts that the teacher-student relationship was relevant, even if the jury accepts that she had two to three drinks, my friend is inviting you to rely on a speculative inference, and in my submission, that would be improper. Okay, so you've both had your last word.
Even if the jury accepts the evidence that she was groomed, even if the jury accepts that the teacher-student relationship was relevant, even if the jury accepts that she had two to three drinks, my friend is inviting you to rely on a speculative inference, and in my submission, that would be improper. Okay, so you've both had your last word.
I'm going to suggest to you, Ms. Robinson, that there was active participation in the intercourse. Is that correct?
I'm going to suggest to you, Ms. Robinson, that there was active participation in the intercourse. Is that correct?