Walter

I think... And I'm the opposite, by the way.

You're just honest about it and that's hard.

I think what's really interesting as well is with you moving to San Francisco and this is something the more I talk to people like yourself who I think have made it because you know you've set out in life just like what do I want out of life and you're sort of just going for that like I love that.

I think the benefit of

moving to a place like San Francisco is the proximity you get with other people and the blueprints you're seeing like I think that's a big reason I want to do this right like selfishly the reason I want to talk to you is like you seem to have figured out in the way you want to and I just want to steal and learn from you and I think you've mentioned that proximity is something that can do that for you right it can give you these blueprints um

So talk to me a little about that.

And I also want to hear you talk about a story about one of your classmates.

You've said this before, whose father had a great job, but never saw his daughter.

Tell me about how can we learn from other people?

And under the idea of figuring out what you want to do in life, what do you notice?

What do you get energy from?

How do you pick up on that?

Yeah.

I think you touched on something else as well as where, you know, if you want to go to San Francisco, like, you know, your boss telling you like, that's where all the serious people are who are interested in startups who actually want to do it.

And you telling yourself like, or asking yourself that question, like, am I, am I serious about this?

Yeah.

Like, I think that's very underrated.

Yeah.

You're only competing with us 50 people.

Pull from examples from how you did this, right?