Waverly Deutsch

And ultimately what happened was I had a conversation with a guidance counselor in my freshman year of college. He said, don't do an undergraduate business degree. Companies want MBAs and MBA programs want to teach you their methodology.

And ultimately what happened was I had a conversation with a guidance counselor in my freshman year of college. He said, don't do an undergraduate business degree. Companies want MBAs and MBA programs want to teach you their methodology.

do something, do a deep dive in something that's related to business that you can leverage in the business world, but would also be a good foundation for going to business school. So I said, okay, I will take the computer science class for computer science majors instead of the one for business majors, and I will check out computer science. And

do something, do a deep dive in something that's related to business that you can leverage in the business world, but would also be a good foundation for going to business school. So I said, okay, I will take the computer science class for computer science majors instead of the one for business majors, and I will check out computer science. And

Again, being a child of the 70s and 80s, this is the very early 80s, I had not been exposed to computers before. And I fell in love with the logic of computers and how it was incumbent on a programmer to break something down into its fundamental elements to teach a computer how to do it. That's programming. I ended up with two majors, one in theater and one in computer science.

Again, being a child of the 70s and 80s, this is the very early 80s, I had not been exposed to computers before. And I fell in love with the logic of computers and how it was incumbent on a programmer to break something down into its fundamental elements to teach a computer how to do it. That's programming. I ended up with two majors, one in theater and one in computer science.

Computer science was starting to have an impact on theater. I had to learn how to program a lighting board, for example. But they were really very separate disciplines that I was bringing together in my own life and in my own mind.

Computer science was starting to have an impact on theater. I had to learn how to program a lighting board, for example. But they were really very separate disciplines that I was bringing together in my own life and in my own mind.

You're 100% right that in the early 80s, the late 70s, early 80s, I was one of three or four women in my computer science classes.

You're 100% right that in the early 80s, the late 70s, early 80s, I was one of three or four women in my computer science classes.

Anywhere from 20 to 35. Oh, okay. Yes. You're a hundred percent correct in thinking that it was very male dominated. I think today in college classes, in computer science, in STEM, you'll have a higher percentage of women, but it still won't exceed. It won't reach 50% in a lot of cases, but it was 5% at best when I was studying computer science.

Anywhere from 20 to 35. Oh, okay. Yes. You're a hundred percent correct in thinking that it was very male dominated. I think today in college classes, in computer science, in STEM, you'll have a higher percentage of women, but it still won't exceed. It won't reach 50% in a lot of cases, but it was 5% at best when I was studying computer science.

I was very lucky in that the head of the computer science department at the University of Pittsburgh happened to be a woman. So I at least had visual role models because, of course, in computer science, most of my teachers were also men. So I did have a female role model to look to when I was a computer science student. I got along really well with the nerdy guys.

I was very lucky in that the head of the computer science department at the University of Pittsburgh happened to be a woman. So I at least had visual role models because, of course, in computer science, most of my teachers were also men. So I did have a female role model to look to when I was a computer science student. I got along really well with the nerdy guys.

I've always had nerdy guys as friends. I have my nerdy side. I'm a science fiction fantasy fan. I cut school in high school to go see The Empire Strikes Back on its very first day in release with my friend Michael, who we called Zonar. I am a nerd, and I got along really well with my nerdy, computer science classmates, I also got along really well.

I've always had nerdy guys as friends. I have my nerdy side. I'm a science fiction fantasy fan. I cut school in high school to go see The Empire Strikes Back on its very first day in release with my friend Michael, who we called Zonar. I am a nerd, and I got along really well with my nerdy, computer science classmates, I also got along really well.

I have, I don't want to brag, but I have what I think is a fairly well-developed EQ from my mother. I got along really well in theater and I got along really well with my much more artsy feeling theater friends. They were two totally different worlds. They did not overlap at all.

I have, I don't want to brag, but I have what I think is a fairly well-developed EQ from my mother. I got along really well in theater and I got along really well with my much more artsy feeling theater friends. They were two totally different worlds. They did not overlap at all.

The question of gender, I think, is a really important one in the conversation that we're having because you're talking about love and logic. And very often, love gets attributed to the feminine and logic gets attributed to the masculine. And they have always been a blend in my life. And I fundamentally believe that they are a blend in humanity.

The question of gender, I think, is a really important one in the conversation that we're having because you're talking about love and logic. And very often, love gets attributed to the feminine and logic gets attributed to the masculine. And they have always been a blend in my life. And I fundamentally believe that they are a blend in humanity.