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Waverly Deutsch

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Chief Change Officer
#335 Waverly Deutsch: Computer, Broadway, and the Beautiful Mess of Career Design

some consulting to see what kind of work I really liked and to see if there was a company that I wanted to throw in with full time. So I went from, as a 29 year old, leaving one field that I had deep experience in, the academic field, and getting into a new field and literally just taking the leap

Chief Change Officer
#335 Waverly Deutsch: Computer, Broadway, and the Beautiful Mess of Career Design

some consulting to see what kind of work I really liked and to see if there was a company that I wanted to throw in with full time. So I went from, as a 29 year old, leaving one field that I had deep experience in, the academic field, and getting into a new field and literally just taking the leap

Chief Change Officer
#335 Waverly Deutsch: Computer, Broadway, and the Beautiful Mess of Career Design

based on a leap of faith that I had this opportunity to join this company that I really liked these people and knew I could learn a lot. Fast forward 10 years, almost 10 years, and I'm taking a very different approach to what I want to do next.

Chief Change Officer
#335 Waverly Deutsch: Computer, Broadway, and the Beautiful Mess of Career Design

based on a leap of faith that I had this opportunity to join this company that I really liked these people and knew I could learn a lot. Fast forward 10 years, almost 10 years, and I'm taking a very different approach to what I want to do next.

Chief Change Officer
#335 Waverly Deutsch: Computer, Broadway, and the Beautiful Mess of Career Design

Wow. I want to tell you a story that I haven't actually told a lot of people about when I learned how to manage the conflict between heart and head. And the time at Forrester with the entrepreneurial CEO, George Colony, was fabulous. And I learned an enormous amount and I grew enormously. But it was also when I had to confront this heart-head challenge. Many of us hate confrontation.

Chief Change Officer
#335 Waverly Deutsch: Computer, Broadway, and the Beautiful Mess of Career Design

Wow. I want to tell you a story that I haven't actually told a lot of people about when I learned how to manage the conflict between heart and head. And the time at Forrester with the entrepreneurial CEO, George Colony, was fabulous. And I learned an enormous amount and I grew enormously. But it was also when I had to confront this heart-head challenge. Many of us hate confrontation.

Chief Change Officer
#335 Waverly Deutsch: Computer, Broadway, and the Beautiful Mess of Career Design

We hate having to deliver bad news or have a difficult conversation. We hate it. And when I get frustrated, when I have to face confrontation, I get teary. And I was having an incredibly hard conversation with George.

Chief Change Officer
#335 Waverly Deutsch: Computer, Broadway, and the Beautiful Mess of Career Design

We hate having to deliver bad news or have a difficult conversation. We hate it. And when I get frustrated, when I have to face confrontation, I get teary. And I was having an incredibly hard conversation with George.

Chief Change Officer
#335 Waverly Deutsch: Computer, Broadway, and the Beautiful Mess of Career Design

about my role at Forrester and my future at Forrester and I started to cry and George didn't know what to do and he wanted to end the conversation and I literally said to the man George I can cry and think at the same time

Chief Change Officer
#335 Waverly Deutsch: Computer, Broadway, and the Beautiful Mess of Career Design

about my role at Forrester and my future at Forrester and I started to cry and George didn't know what to do and he wanted to end the conversation and I literally said to the man George I can cry and think at the same time

Chief Change Officer
#335 Waverly Deutsch: Computer, Broadway, and the Beautiful Mess of Career Design

we can have this conversation yes i am having tears because my emotions are involved in this incredibly important logical conversation we are human beings we have emotions and we have logic and i can think and cry at the same time and for me that was an extremely liberating moment Because in the past, I had always tried to get through the thinking situation and then go off and burst into tears.

Chief Change Officer
#335 Waverly Deutsch: Computer, Broadway, and the Beautiful Mess of Career Design

we can have this conversation yes i am having tears because my emotions are involved in this incredibly important logical conversation we are human beings we have emotions and we have logic and i can think and cry at the same time and for me that was an extremely liberating moment Because in the past, I had always tried to get through the thinking situation and then go off and burst into tears.

Chief Change Officer
#335 Waverly Deutsch: Computer, Broadway, and the Beautiful Mess of Career Design

That had happened to me when I found out at Tufts that I had passed my exams, my PhD exams, and I was going to be awarded my PhD degree. The way that the head of the department presented it to me was hateful. He said, we expected much more of you than this. And if we could give you a pass minus, we would give you a pass minus.

Chief Change Officer
#335 Waverly Deutsch: Computer, Broadway, and the Beautiful Mess of Career Design

That had happened to me when I found out at Tufts that I had passed my exams, my PhD exams, and I was going to be awarded my PhD degree. The way that the head of the department presented it to me was hateful. He said, we expected much more of you than this. And if we could give you a pass minus, we would give you a pass minus.

Chief Change Officer
#335 Waverly Deutsch: Computer, Broadway, and the Beautiful Mess of Career Design

And had been taking care of a partner who was suffering from chronic fatigue. And I had been working a job at Stanley Kaplan and I had been studying for my exams and I was emotionally exhausted. And I said to him, did I pass? And he said, yes. And I said, thank you. And I ran downstairs into the bathroom and burst into tears.

Chief Change Officer
#335 Waverly Deutsch: Computer, Broadway, and the Beautiful Mess of Career Design

And had been taking care of a partner who was suffering from chronic fatigue. And I had been working a job at Stanley Kaplan and I had been studying for my exams and I was emotionally exhausted. And I said to him, did I pass? And he said, yes. And I said, thank you. And I ran downstairs into the bathroom and burst into tears.

Chief Change Officer
#335 Waverly Deutsch: Computer, Broadway, and the Beautiful Mess of Career Design

To be able to have the confrontation with George and to cry and to have logic and to have a successful outcome was an amazing moment for me in learning that both things can happen at the same time and both can come into play at the same time. And I think a lot of people... Especially women, our emotions tend to be a little bit more at the surface than a lot of men experience.

Chief Change Officer
#335 Waverly Deutsch: Computer, Broadway, and the Beautiful Mess of Career Design

To be able to have the confrontation with George and to cry and to have logic and to have a successful outcome was an amazing moment for me in learning that both things can happen at the same time and both can come into play at the same time. And I think a lot of people... Especially women, our emotions tend to be a little bit more at the surface than a lot of men experience.

Chief Change Officer
#335 Waverly Deutsch: Computer, Broadway, and the Beautiful Mess of Career Design

Although, believe me, I've known a lot of men have sat with me and cried. This gift of being able to say you can have your emotions and we can have this important logic-driven discussion at the same time was a really critical moment for me in my evolution as a professional and as a human being, to tell you the truth.

Chief Change Officer
#335 Waverly Deutsch: Computer, Broadway, and the Beautiful Mess of Career Design

Although, believe me, I've known a lot of men have sat with me and cried. This gift of being able to say you can have your emotions and we can have this important logic-driven discussion at the same time was a really critical moment for me in my evolution as a professional and as a human being, to tell you the truth.