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You may, as a CFO, have to go back to work you did as an accountant or a controller to establish your value to a young company that's growing, that needs financial knowledge. You may not be able to be a strategic CFO. You may have to actually go back to some of the work that got you to where you are.

You may, as a CFO, have to go back to work you did as an accountant or a controller to establish your value to a young company that's growing, that needs financial knowledge. You may not be able to be a strategic CFO. You may have to actually go back to some of the work that got you to where you are.

If you want to consult in building a go-to-market or a sales organization, you might have to write marketing collateral. You might have to get on sales calls. You might have to do the kind of work you did when you were coming up to establish your value as someone that now charges consulting rates instead of full-time salary rates. If you're able to do that, there's a lot of room out there

If you want to consult in building a go-to-market or a sales organization, you might have to write marketing collateral. You might have to get on sales calls. You might have to do the kind of work you did when you were coming up to establish your value as someone that now charges consulting rates instead of full-time salary rates. If you're able to do that, there's a lot of room out there

to find consulting work, to find engagements that could lead you to your next job. But your dream of, I'm going to go from my $200,000 job to a bigger, better $250,000 job when you're in your 60s in this market, that's a difficult one. You may have to let go of that.

to find consulting work, to find engagements that could lead you to your next job. But your dream of, I'm going to go from my $200,000 job to a bigger, better $250,000 job when you're in your 60s in this market, that's a difficult one. You may have to let go of that.

Absolutely. You mentioned reskilling and upskilling. I can't tell you how many people I know who are signing up on Coursera for a prompt engineering class to learn how to better leverage generative AI. People are going to need to use the contemporary tools to deliver the value that they bring as experienced professionals.

Absolutely. You mentioned reskilling and upskilling. I can't tell you how many people I know who are signing up on Coursera for a prompt engineering class to learn how to better leverage generative AI. People are going to need to use the contemporary tools to deliver the value that they bring as experienced professionals.

definitely engage with the newer technologies because you can't walk into a growth company populated by a bunch of 20 and 30 somethings and not understand the impact of generative AI or not understand the impact of social media marketing or not know what TikTok is. You have to be able to communicate

definitely engage with the newer technologies because you can't walk into a growth company populated by a bunch of 20 and 30 somethings and not understand the impact of generative AI or not understand the impact of social media marketing or not know what TikTok is. You have to be able to communicate

in the language of today's companies if you want to build a new career after your corporate career.

in the language of today's companies if you want to build a new career after your corporate career.

I just want to say I love how this conversation ranged from career and heart and head into AI, continuing with the heart and head metaphor, because AI is all head, so you've got to bring the heart, to diversity issues, which are very much heart and head. Diversity is not only the right thing to do, but there's a lot of evidence out there that it creates better business results.

I just want to say I love how this conversation ranged from career and heart and head into AI, continuing with the heart and head metaphor, because AI is all head, so you've got to bring the heart, to diversity issues, which are very much heart and head. Diversity is not only the right thing to do, but there's a lot of evidence out there that it creates better business results.

that focusing on diversity actually improves your business results. So I think I love the wide-ranging conversational topics that you brought up, Mintz. Today, it was a really excellent conversation. Oh, I almost forgot.

that focusing on diversity actually improves your business results. So I think I love the wide-ranging conversational topics that you brought up, Mintz. Today, it was a really excellent conversation. Oh, I almost forgot.

So I'm working with a great agency on the book, and I was creating the LLC as a place to put revenues from the book, consulting revenues, things like that. And I was working on what to name it. And I, of course, being very head oriented, was thinking of things like. sepentia, which is Latin for wisdom. And the agency was like, no, nobody knows what that means. They both know what you're doing.

So I'm working with a great agency on the book, and I was creating the LLC as a place to put revenues from the book, consulting revenues, things like that. And I was working on what to name it. And I, of course, being very head oriented, was thinking of things like. sepentia, which is Latin for wisdom. And the agency was like, no, nobody knows what that means. They both know what you're doing.

It makes no sense. And I'm like, okay, so I want to think about wisdom because I had, I am in the latter portions of my life and I have gained a lot of wisdom over my years. And I think that's one of the things I bring in. And they said, you know what? You talk about tough love because what you're bringing is also the love that And that's where the combination Wiseheart came in.

It makes no sense. And I'm like, okay, so I want to think about wisdom because I had, I am in the latter portions of my life and I have gained a lot of wisdom over my years. And I think that's one of the things I bring in. And they said, you know what? You talk about tough love because what you're bringing is also the love that And that's where the combination Wiseheart came in.