Waverly Deutsch

But I recognize in myself that I don't necessarily want to have the kind of career where you have a job and then you don't, and then you have a job and then you don't. That I wanted something that would create stability for me. So I approached college saying I'm going to do a dual major in theater and business.

But I recognize in myself that I don't necessarily want to have the kind of career where you have a job and then you don't, and then you have a job and then you don't. That I wanted something that would create stability for me. So I approached college saying I'm going to do a dual major in theater and business.

And ultimately what happened was I had a conversation with a guidance counselor in my freshman year of college. He said, don't do an undergraduate business degree. Companies want MBAs and MBA programs want to teach you their methodology. Do a deep dive into something that's related to business that you can leverage in the business world, but would also be

And ultimately what happened was I had a conversation with a guidance counselor in my freshman year of college. He said, don't do an undergraduate business degree. Companies want MBAs and MBA programs want to teach you their methodology. Do a deep dive into something that's related to business that you can leverage in the business world, but would also be

a good foundation for going to business school so I said okay I will take the computer science class for computer science majors instead of the one for business majors and I will check out computer science and again being a child of the 70s and 80s this is the very early 80s I had not been exposed to computers before and I fell in love with the logic of computers

a good foundation for going to business school so I said okay I will take the computer science class for computer science majors instead of the one for business majors and I will check out computer science and again being a child of the 70s and 80s this is the very early 80s I had not been exposed to computers before and I fell in love with the logic of computers

and how it was incumbent on a programmer to break something down into its fundamental elements to teach a computer how to do it. That's programming. I ended up with two majors, one in theater and one in computer science. Computer science was starting to have an impact on theater. I had to learn how to program a lighting board, for example.

and how it was incumbent on a programmer to break something down into its fundamental elements to teach a computer how to do it. That's programming. I ended up with two majors, one in theater and one in computer science. Computer science was starting to have an impact on theater. I had to learn how to program a lighting board, for example.

But they were really very separate disciplines that I was bringing together in my own life and in my own mind.

But they were really very separate disciplines that I was bringing together in my own life and in my own mind.

You're 100% right that in the early eighties, the late seventies, early eighties, I was one of three or four women in my classes, in my computer science classes.

You're 100% right that in the early eighties, the late seventies, early eighties, I was one of three or four women in my classes, in my computer science classes.

Anywhere from 20 to 35. Oh, okay. Yes. You're 100% correct in thinking that it was very male-dominated. I think today in college classes, in computer science, in STEM, you'll have a higher percentage of women, but it still won't exceed. It won't reach 50% in a lot of cases, but it was 5% at best when I was studying computer science.

Anywhere from 20 to 35. Oh, okay. Yes. You're 100% correct in thinking that it was very male-dominated. I think today in college classes, in computer science, in STEM, you'll have a higher percentage of women, but it still won't exceed. It won't reach 50% in a lot of cases, but it was 5% at best when I was studying computer science.

I was very lucky in that the head of the computer science department at the University of Pittsburgh happened to be a woman. So I at least had visual role models because, of course, in computer science, most of my teachers were also men. So I did have a female role model to look to when I was a computer science student. I got along really well with the nerdy guys.

I was very lucky in that the head of the computer science department at the University of Pittsburgh happened to be a woman. So I at least had visual role models because, of course, in computer science, most of my teachers were also men. So I did have a female role model to look to when I was a computer science student. I got along really well with the nerdy guys.

I've always had nerdy guys as friends. I have my nerdy side. I'm a science fiction fantasy fan. I cut school in high school to go see The Empire Strikes Back on its very first day in release with my friend Michael, who we called Zonar.

I've always had nerdy guys as friends. I have my nerdy side. I'm a science fiction fantasy fan. I cut school in high school to go see The Empire Strikes Back on its very first day in release with my friend Michael, who we called Zonar.

computer science classmates I also got along really well I have I don't want to brag but I have what I think is a fairly well developed EQ from my mother I got along really well in theater and I got along really well with my much more artsy feeling theater friends they were two totally different worlds they did not overlap at all

computer science classmates I also got along really well I have I don't want to brag but I have what I think is a fairly well developed EQ from my mother I got along really well in theater and I got along really well with my much more artsy feeling theater friends they were two totally different worlds they did not overlap at all