Wayland Lum

Yeah. So it's Vincent. I love what you're sharing here. And actually I need to catch that movie myself. I've been meaning to do that because I've been hearing such great things.

Yeah. So it's Vincent. I love what you're sharing here. And actually I need to catch that movie myself. I've been meaning to do that because I've been hearing such great things.

And when it comes to these, these sort of like these emotions that are juxtaposed or two sides of the same coin, it's a good lesson for us as leaders, generally speaking, you know, another one, as I was listening to you, that comes to mind is love. For example, love that you have for somebody else, a deep love and with deep love,

And when it comes to these, these sort of like these emotions that are juxtaposed or two sides of the same coin, it's a good lesson for us as leaders, generally speaking, you know, another one, as I was listening to you, that comes to mind is love. For example, love that you have for somebody else, a deep love and with deep love,

can also come profound grief right when losing a loved one let's say and so these these strong emotions and the best of the emotions that you can experience in the world such as joy such as love they do come with also other profound emotions that can also be

can also come profound grief right when losing a loved one let's say and so these these strong emotions and the best of the emotions that you can experience in the world such as joy such as love they do come with also other profound emotions that can also be

at times devastating in one's life right understanding both of those things accepting that and going seeking love out anyways or wanting to be joyful knowing that there'll be days when there will be profound sadness and understanding and accepting that i think it's a bit of wisdom that that we're talking about here in terms of modern leadership because it's really an understanding of human nature both the human experience for oneself but also for others

at times devastating in one's life right understanding both of those things accepting that and going seeking love out anyways or wanting to be joyful knowing that there'll be days when there will be profound sadness and understanding and accepting that i think it's a bit of wisdom that that we're talking about here in terms of modern leadership because it's really an understanding of human nature both the human experience for oneself but also for others

Yeah, no, it's great. Thanks for having me, Vince. I'm looking forward to our conversation.

Yeah, no, it's great. Thanks for having me, Vince. I'm looking forward to our conversation.

I'm doing well, Vince. Yeah, it's another balmy day in Austin, Texas. And I'm looking forward to the summer as we chatted about before. So yeah, and also excited to be with you and have a great conversation.

I'm doing well, Vince. Yeah, it's another balmy day in Austin, Texas. And I'm looking forward to the summer as we chatted about before. So yeah, and also excited to be with you and have a great conversation.

Yeah, absolutely. Thanks, Vince. So I think early on, going back to undergrad, I knew early on that I had a desire to meld the disciplines of psychology and business. And so it was a very easy choice for me to study industrial organizational psychology. I did that at San Jose State, go Spartans.

Yeah, absolutely. Thanks, Vince. So I think early on, going back to undergrad, I knew early on that I had a desire to meld the disciplines of psychology and business. And so it was a very easy choice for me to study industrial organizational psychology. I did that at San Jose State, go Spartans.

And from that experience, launched my career into HR, which got me close to talent, organizational talent, first in Silicon Valley and high tech, and then more broadly across to New York and then other parts of the country as well. And I would say, Vince, the thing that has been a prevailing theme in my career is how to work with and provide value to the best talent in the world.

And from that experience, launched my career into HR, which got me close to talent, organizational talent, first in Silicon Valley and high tech, and then more broadly across to New York and then other parts of the country as well. And I would say, Vince, the thing that has been a prevailing theme in my career is how to work with and provide value to the best talent in the world.

And so if you look at my career trajectory, it's really been a journey and a sort of

And so if you look at my career trajectory, it's really been a journey and a sort of

quest if you will to find uh who those individuals are or those groups of people and be able to work closely with them to really help them to develop their maximum potential and become the now the folk that i have now the leaders that they are meant to become and by doing so we know that the world is more positively impacted and becomes a better place here's what i find truly admiring and courageous of you

quest if you will to find uh who those individuals are or those groups of people and be able to work closely with them to really help them to develop their maximum potential and become the now the folk that i have now the leaders that they are meant to become and by doing so we know that the world is more positively impacted and becomes a better place here's what i find truly admiring and courageous of you