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Wayne Hsiung

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
639 total appearances

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Radiolab
What is a Pig Worth?

Wow, what a weird move.

Radiolab
What is a Pig Worth?

It's like he clearly values the piglet because he broke into the farm to save it, but then now he's in court arguing that it actually has no value, less than no value, just so he won't get in trouble?

Radiolab
What is a Pig Worth?

Yeah, but it's more complicated than that.

Radiolab
What is a Pig Worth?

So at one level, yes, he's saying that they don't have value, like a dollar value.

Radiolab
What is a Pig Worth?

But at the same time, he's also saying that they kind of have this different kind of value, like as living beings who can suffer.

Radiolab
What is a Pig Worth?

I'm going to move now to Exhibit 3.

Radiolab
What is a Pig Worth?

And in particular, he's arguing, like, the farm, they don't see the pigs this way.

Radiolab
What is a Pig Worth?

Like, you can really see this happening in this one moment where Wayne is trying to introduce this clip of one of the piglets.

Radiolab
What is a Pig Worth?

And, you know, the prosecution objects, like always.

Radiolab
What is a Pig Worth?

You know, the blood on the piglet's face, that could have come from the mother, and it's not really about her.

Radiolab
What is a Pig Worth?

But the health of the piglet clearly depends on its relationship with the mom, so I don't know.

Radiolab
What is a Pig Worth?

Right, you can't actually separate these things, but the judge is doing everything he can to try to do that.

Radiolab
What is a Pig Worth?

Like, at one point, he watches the video, like, when the jury's not in the room, and he's like, okay, well... Okay, well, look, this is my concern.

Radiolab
What is a Pig Worth?

So how about how about you just like print out a still shot and then cut out the piglet?

Radiolab
What is a Pig Worth?

I was just sitting at the defense table with a pair of scissors cutting out eight little paper piglets.

Radiolab
What is a Pig Worth?

Looked like something from a second grade art class.

Radiolab
What is a Pig Worth?

And I just thought to myself, this is just stranger than fiction.

Radiolab
What is a Pig Worth?

And when the jury got these little cutout pictures.