Wendy Freedman

And I think, you know, I personally am open to it coming out either way, but I have to be convinced by the data.

And at the moment, I am not convinced by the data that there is this crisis and that there's something broken in our standard model.

So time will tell.

That's right.

That would be very exciting.

I would love to see it, but I want to be convinced.

And I'm just not at a point where I could be convinced.

I don't think I'm going to be around that time.

We can do that.

But I think, you know, what

What we're measuring in our own Milky Way galaxy, if we were to go to Andromeda or other galaxies in our local group or beyond, we would be measuring the same thing.

I think the frightening thing to think about is in 60 billion years, if you're worried about future, the acceleration of the universe, if it continues, if the dark energy doesn't...

decay, then we won't see other galaxies and we won't have the chance to make the measurements that we're making today.

So I think that we're living in an interesting time, but we don't have to worry in the same way Matt doesn't have to worry about the sun.

It's going to be a long time in the future.

I'll say it wouldn't change how we would do our work, I think.

We would continue to observe the universe, measure it, and see what's out there.

So that would not change.

You can answer the other part, Neil.

I find this interesting, these kinds of conversations.