Wendy Freedman

And there are lots of efforts to try and discover it, but that has not occurred.

And the dark energy, we have no physical understood.

There's no physical theory that can explain what the dark energy is.

So yes, there's lots of room for

us understanding this standard model.

So there could be cracks in the model, and maybe this discrepancy is one of the things that's pointing to something missing from the standard model.

So either this is really interesting and we're learning about some fundamental problem, fundamental property of the universe, or we've underestimated our uncertainties.

Okay.

I'm going to bet on the second one.

That could mean that we'll learn something about astrophysics, about the properties of stars.

We're going to learn something about supernovae or cepheids or something interesting astrophysically, but not necessarily telling us about cosmology.

Would I have used the word crisis?

No, I don't believe it's a crisis.

Not in my opinion.

Yeah, fortunately, we don't vote on these things.

The data thing again.

It's important.

Yeah, so we have a small group, which is a really nice group.

It's small and efficient.

That's right.