Wendy Zuckerman

I'm Wendy Zuckerman. Back to you next time.

I'm Wendy Zuckerman. Back to you next time.

I'm Wendy Zuckerman. Back to you next time.

Hi, I'm Wendy Zuckerman, the host of Science Versus. And on Science Versus, we tell these bonkers science stories that matter to you and me. Whether it's a story about how much protein you need to eat every day, what is happening in your brain as you dream, And stories about serial killers. To find us, just search for Science Versus, that's Science VS, on whatever podcast app you're using.

Hi, I'm Wendy Zuckerman, the host of Science Versus. And on Science Versus, we tell these bonkers science stories that matter to you and me. Whether it's a story about how much protein you need to eat every day, what is happening in your brain as you dream, And stories about serial killers. To find us, just search for Science Versus, that's Science VS, on whatever podcast app you're using.

And so today, I'm telling you the story of how a lab that designs nuclear weapons helped catch a serial killer. Hi, I'm Wendy Zuckerman, and you're listening to Science Versus. Today on the show, how a lab that designs nuclear weapons helped catch a serial killer. And if you're going to do true crime, you better bring in the true crime queen, host of Crime Junkie, Ashley Flowers.

And so today, I'm telling you the story of how a lab that designs nuclear weapons helped catch a serial killer. Hi, I'm Wendy Zuckerman, and you're listening to Science Versus. Today on the show, how a lab that designs nuclear weapons helped catch a serial killer. And if you're going to do true crime, you better bring in the true crime queen, host of Crime Junkie, Ashley Flowers.

Welcome to Science Versus. Hello. I'm so excited to be here. So something that a lot of people might not know about you is that you graduated from biomedical science. That was your degree. It was. And we are twinsies.

Welcome to Science Versus. Hello. I'm so excited to be here. So something that a lot of people might not know about you is that you graduated from biomedical science. That was your degree. It was. And we are twinsies.

Right.

Right.

Yes. Yes. I think that's one of the reasons I love science too. It's a way to understand the world. Yeah. If science is your side piece, I guess, your true love is really mysteries.

Yes. Yes. I think that's one of the reasons I love science too. It's a way to understand the world. Yeah. If science is your side piece, I guess, your true love is really mysteries.

That I've heard you say that you are obsessed with solving mysteries. Obsessed. What is it about a mystery that just grabs you and you cannot let go?

That I've heard you say that you are obsessed with solving mysteries. Obsessed. What is it about a mystery that just grabs you and you cannot let go?

Well, today we have a real mystery for you and it's got a whole bunch of science in it. So should we jump in?

Well, today we have a real mystery for you and it's got a whole bunch of science in it. So should we jump in?

It's two days after Christmas in 1996 and a woman named Salby Esatrian is rushed to Glendale Adventist Medical Center in California. She's 75 years old and is having trouble breathing. One hospital worker told the LA Times about her. He said, she's a sweet old lady. She got treatment at the hospital. And on December 30th, she's breathing on her own. Things are looking pretty good for her.

It's two days after Christmas in 1996 and a woman named Salby Esatrian is rushed to Glendale Adventist Medical Center in California. She's 75 years old and is having trouble breathing. One hospital worker told the LA Times about her. He said, she's a sweet old lady. She got treatment at the hospital. And on December 30th, she's breathing on her own. Things are looking pretty good for her.

But then three and a half hours later, Salby was dead. That same day, Eleonora Schlegel goes into Glendale Adventist. She has some chronic illnesses, a nasty case of pneumonia. On New Year's Eve, her son Larry, he said in a documentary that she was sitting upright and breathing as best as she could. They apparently have this toast and say next year will be better. Oh, no.