Wendy Zuckerman

That's why we love it.

She's a feisty beast.

So there were all these news reports recently, particularly in Australia, saying that vaping is not safer than cigarettes.

Off the back of Bernard's paper, right?

But what's interesting is Bernard's paper was really not

comparing vapes to cigarettes.

In fact, the whole point of the paper was to say that vaping in its own right is harmful.

Forget about comparing it to cigarettes.

And yet, did you notice this?

In the very last, it's just in the very last line of the paper, it's almost kind of tossed out.

They say, quote, cancer aside, a range of diseases are attributable to vaping, which can no longer be caricatured as safer than smoking.

You're right.

It almost, I don't know if you had this feeling, but it was almost as if for the whole paper, the scientists are breaking up with vaping and then they turn around and walk away, but then toss off, oh, and you're bad in bed too.

And the reason that it is so, whoa, so shocking is because of just how bad cigarette smoking is.

So to remind us, here's Professor Becky Freeman.

She's a public health researcher who focuses on tobacco control and vaping at the University of Sydney.

So, could vaping really be that bad?

Given that there's, you know, we've just talked about these unknowns around vaping and cancer, what do we actually know here?

I mean, could vaping be as dangerous as smoking?

Really?