Werner Herzog

uninteresting as it gets, but he moved once a small ship, 30 tons or so, I mean, ridiculously small for me, and disassembled it and moved it over flat terrain into another river.

with almost everyone that I know, something that is very human, a deep metaphor like the metaphor of Sisyphus who rolls up a big boulder of rock up the mountain and it rolls back on him and he has to do it over and over again.

Sisyphus, of course, dates back two and a half thousand years at least into ancient Greek mythology.

But I knew there was something of that nature, a very deep

metaphor, a little bit like, let's say, the quest for Moby Dick, the white whale, something that we share, we have it in us.

It's some sort of human knowledge, but undiscovered yet, unarticulated yet.

The ancient Greek articulated with a myth of Sisyphus.

Melville articulated it in his book Moby Dick.

And I articulated something in Fitzcarraldo.

What exactly I uncovered, I can't tell you, but I know it's big.

I hardly see anyone.

Visual artists?

I don't see, well, I have to think hard.

I don't see anyone.

But I have to confess, I do not see many films, four or five a year, much less than an average moviegoer.

I read.

Now I don't go to museums.

Museums as a threshold.

It's very hard for me to step over this threshold.

Sometimes my wife manages to get me into a museum.