Werner Vogels

Yeah.

Engineering has come a long way since.

I think the first NoSQL tools were really the first tools.

Now, if you look at DynamoDB, if you look at Mongo, these are super robust, highly scalable tools where everybody can build a business on.

So first of all, it's 21 years now, right?

So that's a bit, and there is a predecessor to DynamoDB, that's Dynamo.

And one of the things, when I joined Amazon, I joined as what was called a director of systems research.

The idea was to bring, you know, let me go a little bit back.

Think about 1994, when Jeff Bezos starts thinking about sort of the internet.

And he starts a bookshop.

He doesn't really want to start a bookshop.

He's just fascinated by the internet.

What are the things that you can do online that you will never be able to do in real life?

And he just picks a bookshop.

A good bookshop has 40,000 titles in stock, yet there's millions of books out there.

So he thinks you could do that online.

But there is no book.

There is no software that you can buy.

There is no book that says, and here is an e-commerce operation.

The word e-commerce doesn't exist yet.