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but he would, he would be on my ballot and did not even have him mentioned in this conversation. I mean, Shady Eldridge's Alexander has better odds than Ahmed Thompson does. That seems weird. So he's one of those guys who, when I think about defensive player of the year,

Not only am I looking at who's getting stops and who's important to their defense, but who's making those game-changing defensive plays? Who's swinging the momentum and changing the entire tenor of the whole matchup just with what they do on the defensive end? And I don't know that there's... I mean... I don't.

Not only am I looking at who's getting stops and who's important to their defense, but who's making those game-changing defensive plays? Who's swinging the momentum and changing the entire tenor of the whole matchup just with what they do on the defensive end? And I don't know that there's... I mean... I don't.

Not only am I looking at who's getting stops and who's important to their defense, but who's making those game-changing defensive plays? Who's swinging the momentum and changing the entire tenor of the whole matchup just with what they do on the defensive end? And I don't know that there's... I mean... I don't.

Is there anybody better than Ahmed Thompson on that end when when he's sort of just totally dialed in and engaged in terms of just making those huge kind of game swinging type of plays on the defensive end? I think he at least has to be in the conversation.

Is there anybody better than Ahmed Thompson on that end when when he's sort of just totally dialed in and engaged in terms of just making those huge kind of game swinging type of plays on the defensive end? I think he at least has to be in the conversation.

Is there anybody better than Ahmed Thompson on that end when when he's sort of just totally dialed in and engaged in terms of just making those huge kind of game swinging type of plays on the defensive end? I think he at least has to be in the conversation.

Yeah, it's just weird that we're not even having him in the conversation. I mean, he guarded Steph on Sunday night. He guards Shea Gilgis-Alexander in Houston's win over Oklahoma City. And then a couple weeks ago, he's guarding Luka and holds him to one for six shooting, right? It's just... There are moments for him, but to your point, it's very similar to the Draymond Green case a little bit.

Yeah, it's just weird that we're not even having him in the conversation. I mean, he guarded Steph on Sunday night. He guards Shea Gilgis-Alexander in Houston's win over Oklahoma City. And then a couple weeks ago, he's guarding Luka and holds him to one for six shooting, right? It's just... There are moments for him, but to your point, it's very similar to the Draymond Green case a little bit.

Yeah, it's just weird that we're not even having him in the conversation. I mean, he guarded Steph on Sunday night. He guards Shea Gilgis-Alexander in Houston's win over Oklahoma City. And then a couple weeks ago, he's guarding Luka and holds him to one for six shooting, right? It's just... There are moments for him, but to your point, it's very similar to the Draymond Green case a little bit.

I just wanted to throw him in there. But to answer your question, I'm either... I'm between Lou Dort and Evan Mobley at this point. And now you kind of get back to that classic, well, am I going to go with the perimeter guy or am I going to go with the big? And... I will make the case for Lou Dort because the one thing I hear, Evan Mobley, he's awesome. Cleveland's defense has been really good.

I just wanted to throw him in there. But to answer your question, I'm either... I'm between Lou Dort and Evan Mobley at this point. And now you kind of get back to that classic, well, am I going to go with the perimeter guy or am I going to go with the big? And... I will make the case for Lou Dort because the one thing I hear, Evan Mobley, he's awesome. Cleveland's defense has been really good.

I just wanted to throw him in there. But to answer your question, I'm either... I'm between Lou Dort and Evan Mobley at this point. And now you kind of get back to that classic, well, am I going to go with the perimeter guy or am I going to go with the big? And... I will make the case for Lou Dort because the one thing I hear, Evan Mobley, he's awesome. Cleveland's defense has been really good.

But with Lou Dort, I keep hearing this pushback of, well, he's surrounded with a lot of really good defenders in Oklahoma City. And that's true. Like, no doubt about it. I kind of think... the whole thing falls apart without Lou Dort a little bit. Like it's not to say that there would be a bad defense, but they wouldn't be elite.

But with Lou Dort, I keep hearing this pushback of, well, he's surrounded with a lot of really good defenders in Oklahoma City. And that's true. Like, no doubt about it. I kind of think... the whole thing falls apart without Lou Dort a little bit. Like it's not to say that there would be a bad defense, but they wouldn't be elite.

But with Lou Dort, I keep hearing this pushback of, well, he's surrounded with a lot of really good defenders in Oklahoma City. And that's true. Like, no doubt about it. I kind of think... the whole thing falls apart without Lou Dort a little bit. Like it's not to say that there would be a bad defense, but they wouldn't be elite.

Like just this absolute, you know, razor of a, of a defense that just is carrying them to wins. It's almost 70 wins in a season. They'd probably be still top 10, but I don't think they would be this dominant on this end. If not for Lou Dort, he's always the guy taking the most difficult assignment. He's kind of the, the, the anchor of that defense and everybody else kind of

Like just this absolute, you know, razor of a, of a defense that just is carrying them to wins. It's almost 70 wins in a season. They'd probably be still top 10, but I don't think they would be this dominant on this end. If not for Lou Dort, he's always the guy taking the most difficult assignment. He's kind of the, the, the anchor of that defense and everybody else kind of

Like just this absolute, you know, razor of a, of a defense that just is carrying them to wins. It's almost 70 wins in a season. They'd probably be still top 10, but I don't think they would be this dominant on this end. If not for Lou Dort, he's always the guy taking the most difficult assignment. He's kind of the, the, the anchor of that defense and everybody else kind of

does stuff around him, but every single night he's bringing it. And I just think about two things. Who's had the best wire to wire defensive season. I think Lou Dort started the year just already looking like an all defensive guy. And he's finished the year looking at it. He's not had any lulls or any dips.