Wesley Huff

And if you watch the interaction I had with him, it's on my YouTube channel. There was no rebuttal. So we get into the topics. He claims that Jesus wasn't crucified. He kind of has these sources that he uses. He brought those up predictably, as I thought he might. And I addressed why those sources don't work for his claim. And then he collapsed.

And if you watch the interaction I had with him, it's on my YouTube channel. There was no rebuttal. So we get into the topics. He claims that Jesus wasn't crucified. He kind of has these sources that he uses. He brought those up predictably, as I thought he might. And I addressed why those sources don't work for his claim. And then he collapsed.

He just said, you know, well, the first claim was that it was from the Sinai Bible, which is Codex Sinaiticus. And I happened to have a facsimile, a photocopy of Codex Sinaiticus on my shelf. And so I simply pulled it off my shelf and said, well, do you mind telling me where you think it denies the crucifixion or that the crucifixion isn't there? Because this is a fourth century Greek Bible.

He just said, you know, well, the first claim was that it was from the Sinai Bible, which is Codex Sinaiticus. And I happened to have a facsimile, a photocopy of Codex Sinaiticus on my shelf. And so I simply pulled it off my shelf and said, well, do you mind telling me where you think it denies the crucifixion or that the crucifixion isn't there? Because this is a fourth century Greek Bible.

It has the crucifixion. And so he kind of pivoted to saying, well, no, that's, I misspoke. I actually meant the Gospel of Barnabas, which is a known forgery. And so I think the... My surprise was that he didn't try to double down. He just completely capitulated and then tried to move the topics onward.

It has the crucifixion. And so he kind of pivoted to saying, well, no, that's, I misspoke. I actually meant the Gospel of Barnabas, which is a known forgery. And so I think the... My surprise was that he didn't try to double down. He just completely capitulated and then tried to move the topics onward.

Well, we did the podcast and then it was very clear that Billy did not want the podcast to air. So he got in contact with Mark and he said, this thing can't go out. And he had a couple of different reasons, which he verbalized. But the reasons did kind of shift. There was some talk of a debate.

Well, we did the podcast and then it was very clear that Billy did not want the podcast to air. So he got in contact with Mark and he said, this thing can't go out. And he had a couple of different reasons, which he verbalized. But the reasons did kind of shift. There was some talk of a debate.

Well, at first he said, you know, I didn't really understand that this was going to be as of a debate as it turned out to be. And I typically ask a fee. So he says he, you know, asked 50 grand for a debate. That was never... And so it was unfair because this is his kind of standard practice is that it costs $50,000 to debate Billy Carson.

Well, at first he said, you know, I didn't really understand that this was going to be as of a debate as it turned out to be. And I typically ask a fee. So he says he, you know, asked 50 grand for a debate. That was never... And so it was unfair because this is his kind of standard practice is that it costs $50,000 to debate Billy Carson.

And then he brought forward that there was some sort of interaction, formal debate that was being set up with another Christian that this was interfering with. Now, I doubt that that was the case. I've been part of events where debates have taken place. And why this conversation would have truly impinged on a later debate is unclear to me. But that was what he said.

And then he brought forward that there was some sort of interaction, formal debate that was being set up with another Christian that this was interfering with. Now, I doubt that that was the case. I've been part of events where debates have taken place. And why this conversation would have truly impinged on a later debate is unclear to me. But that was what he said.

And so at this point, Mark and Billy are friends. They've known each other for years. They live in the same neighborhood. And so... For the good faith of their friendship, Mark decides to do Billy a solid and hold on to the footage. But Mark contacted me only a couple days later and said, you know, here's the situation, Wes. It's not going to go out. Billy doesn't want me to put it out.

And so at this point, Mark and Billy are friends. They've known each other for years. They live in the same neighborhood. And so... For the good faith of their friendship, Mark decides to do Billy a solid and hold on to the footage. But Mark contacted me only a couple days later and said, you know, here's the situation, Wes. It's not going to go out. Billy doesn't want me to put it out.

And I think Mark was a little bit uncomfortable with the fact that Billy didn't want it put out. And so I simply said, you know, that's fine. It's your podcast. But I'm going to make a video and simply say that this event happened. And so that's what I did.

And I think Mark was a little bit uncomfortable with the fact that Billy didn't want it put out. And so I simply said, you know, that's fine. It's your podcast. But I'm going to make a video and simply say that this event happened. And so that's what I did.

And as things transpired, it was clear that not everything was adding up on Billy's side, but then also a lot of people were accusing me of actually making up the interaction. And so as that kind of took place- What percentage? Your own audience? No, just people online. Okay.

And as things transpired, it was clear that not everything was adding up on Billy's side, but then also a lot of people were accusing me of actually making up the interaction. And so as that kind of took place- What percentage? Your own audience? No, just people online. Okay.

Right. Yeah. And then I just kind of say to Mark, as we're talking back and forth, because we're communicating throughout, you know, the course of the aftermath of this. And I said, you know, hey, people are accusing me of lying, of making this up. And Mark was quite uncomfortable with that. Mark was quite uncomfortable with the fact that people are accusing me of dishonesty.

Right. Yeah. And then I just kind of say to Mark, as we're talking back and forth, because we're communicating throughout, you know, the course of the aftermath of this. And I said, you know, hey, people are accusing me of lying, of making this up. And Mark was quite uncomfortable with that. Mark was quite uncomfortable with the fact that people are accusing me of dishonesty.