Wesley Huff

How did that first ball get rolling?

And then why can you and I, Stephen, sit here and, like I said before, have the three pounds of gray matter in my head kind of –

ruminate over these very complex questions?

Sure.

I mean, it's the transitions going from the chimpanzee type thing, right?

Because we're obviously not arguing that we were a chimpanzee as a chimpanzee exists today.

We have a common ancestor.

Yeah, that hominid, whatever that hominid was, what is the transitionary...

fossil explanation, whatever, that goes from the monkey to the human being.

And I don't really think we have an answer for that in terms of consciousness questions.

Like, what makes our ability to reason and think and contemplate different than all of the other species in the animal kingdom?

And how do we go if we're arguing that everything comes from single-celled organisms?

I guess you could have a, if you want to call it a time of the gaps explanation, you know, just add lots of millions of years and it solves this issue.

I don't know if I am completely satisfied with that answer.

Because obviously there's adaptation.

But, you know, if you're looking at whether there's the dodo bird example or Darwin's finches, right, where the beaks are different, you're still getting beaked birds, right?

And we've never seen one species turn into a completely different species.

Yeah, I mean, ultimately, no matter which way you want to swing it, I think the adding millions of years as the explanation is a little bit too convenient.

But I think at the end of the day, you're still looking at the complexity in nature that points to a design of something that is amazing.

And the question of, okay, how do we – Dawkins is famous for saying that it has the illusion of design to it, right?