Wesley Morris

Yeah.

And I think now's the time to be investing in younger people getting a lot of at-bats to see if there's any stardom there.

And then Penn was... But Cage is like a different... Cage is something else too.

He's on Friends.

Well, first of all, I don't want to answer your question with a question, but I will ask you this, because it's going to help frame how we talk about him a little bit, which is, is he or was he ever a movie star?

Right?

It's very simple.

Did we vote...

to pay to see this person in a movie.

I think

What happened, and I think this is phase four.

Yeah.

Where he does that batch of movies where he's some older actor's sidekick, brother, protege, something.

Yeah.

And he gets to be a little, he gets to be a character actor, which is what I had assumed he'd always wanted.

He did not want us to know he was hot, right?

He didn't, he seemed to like really resist being found attractive.

But taste is not the same thing as...

kind of being ashamed of something about yourself.

Cause at the same time, you know, he was always really physically fit.