Wilfred Genee

Yes, there is so much wrong with that.

I have been very clear about that today in the debate towards the minister.

I said that the body management must leave.

But don't think that if Jannie Knoll is gone, that a problem has been solved with that.

There is just a lot of everything and a lot of wrong with that.

Make an independent.

Just evaluate and within six months I want to know how it is being looked at from the workplace.

...to this top.

Within six months, the CDA will say... ...a woman is not realistic at all, and the tone is also not quite right.

I say, no, it's not realistic at all, it is realistic.

Maybe I'm impatient and justified the result... ...but if we had more people from that here in The Hague... ...we would have achieved something at least.

But wait, nobody is going to say to Yannick Nol, you have to leave.

Well, that could be possible.

But that kind of thing doesn't happen in the Netherlands.

No, that kind of thing doesn't happen there.

Because we've made a few mistakes, of course.

Well, still.

But nobody says... In the Netherlands, no one is ever responsible for something.

If you leave, you come back to an even better function.

In the cabinet, for example.