Will Baude

Thank you.

Anyway, so I think we don't know that's at the default.

So to back up to what Hawaii has done, Hawaii took the default rule that property owners can say no guns and said, we're just going to assume that all private property is no guns unless the property owner says guns, guns allowed.

So if you walk around Chicago, there are a ton of these like no guns allowed in the movie theater, no guns allowed in this establishment signs.

So Chicago has the ordinary default.

But Hawaii decided to flip the default to say you can't take your gun to any –

piece of private property, unless you get the affirmative consent of the owner.

Either with a sign or I think you are allowed, there's some dispute about this at the argument, I think if there's no sign, you are allowed to go onto the property, maybe even with your gun for a minute, to say, hey, I'd like to get gas at your gas station, do you mind if I bring my gun or something?

Right.

And I think to add that this could be true, not just because property owners don't care, but because of sort of the social dynamics around guns, especially in a state like Hawaii, where there isn't a strong gun culture and a lot of people don't like guns.

Like you might well have somebody who runs a coffee shop in Hawaii whose view is, I'm

I don't really care, man.

You want to have a gun?

You aren't bothering anybody.

Like it's fine.

I'm not going to put up a no gun sign.

But if he has to put up a gun sign, suddenly like the anti-gun people are going to get upset about it and they're going to complain to him about it.

And then he doesn't want that either.

And so you can imagine that like actually requiring property owners to take a stand on a culturally contentious issue in a place where gun rights are the minority position, like, you know, pressures it.

Um,