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Will Baude

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1738 total appearances

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Jezebel Shouting

In our world, it seems more like the court makes it up as it goes along based on whether it likes these claims.

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Yeah, although, again, there are honorable exceptions.

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Jezebel Shouting

So Justice Thomas, who loves to criticize the court for making things up and not following the statutes, has said, gosh, qualified immunity seems to be a place where we made up something and stopped following the statute.

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Jezebel Shouting

We should probably do something about that.

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Jezebel Shouting

Yeah, no, I will say that does mean that it's ultimately the taxpayers of Vermont who have to pay for this.

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Jezebel Shouting

So maybe the court is just thinking about your average farmer.

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Jezebel Shouting

So it does dance around that.

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Jezebel Shouting

It says, you know, is it even possible for a lower court decision to clearly establish law or can that only come from the Supreme Court?

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Jezebel Shouting

This is a very odd thing because the Supreme Court has squarely held that a lower court decision can establish clearly established law in a case Camerata versus Green, I think maybe from when you clerked.

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The court has said that it can happen.

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And then after that, the court has just said, well, we're not sure whether it can.

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Jezebel Shouting

So it's a funny way to undermine precedent is you just hold something.

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And then the next year you're like, I don't know.

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Do we ever hold that?

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And you sort of hope that over time that will create enough fog that the decision goes away.

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Yeah, this is a nice way to reinforce the principle that most of the time the Supreme Court is not a court of error correction.

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Jezebel Shouting

So they had previously taken this case because there was a legal issue and disagreement about various rules for when you could get access to testing.

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They resolved the legal issue they felt was important.