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Will Baude

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Jezebel Shouting

I promise it's not that hard.

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Jezebel Shouting

But it's been a while since the justice took Winnell's civil procedure.

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Jezebel Shouting

So they prefer to just have a rule that says no regardless of the answer.

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Jezebel Shouting

Well, so what's better is there's a concurring opinion by Justice Thomas that just openly says we're making this up.

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Jezebel Shouting

That just says, look, this case is about the kind of collision course between the habeas corpus statute and civil rights statute.

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Jezebel Shouting

But it's our fault that they're on a collision course because we misinterpreted the habeas stash a long time ago and granted too much habeas.

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Jezebel Shouting

And we misinterpreted the civil rights statute a long time ago and said there are too many civil rights.

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Jezebel Shouting

And so we get to fix that.

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Having made this problem of sort of interpreting the statutes too broadly, we get to fix the problem of having to decide how to unbroaden them.

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Jezebel Shouting

Yeah, although in a way the doctrine already existed also for other kinds of suits.

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There was an even earlier case called Prizer versus Rodriguez that was like, so I'm in prison.

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Jezebel Shouting

It's hard to get out of habeas corpus.

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Jezebel Shouting

Why don't I get rid of injunction instead and just ask for an injunction saying let me out?

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Jezebel Shouting

That's just like an order in the court.

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Jezebel Shouting

And of course, the courts say, well, you can't do that.

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Jezebel Shouting

You can't just call it something else and get around the rules.

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Jezebel Shouting

So the intuition that sometimes you shouldn't be able to just do an end run around the limitations we have on getting second-guessing a criminal trial is old.

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Jezebel Shouting

But it's true that then courts just casually repeat various phrases from these cases without limitations that they contain, and they become much broader rules than they were.