Will Bode

It'll be fine. So what happened? They got somebody else. All right. In North Carolina, this really matters, though. So many people just go online and join the Universal Life Church or whatever it is, which is, I think, a fraudulent quasi fake religious organization. And in some states, including North Carolina, those marriages have been held to be invalid.

It'll be fine. So what happened? They got somebody else. All right. In North Carolina, this really matters, though. So many people just go online and join the Universal Life Church or whatever it is, which is, I think, a fraudulent quasi fake religious organization. And in some states, including North Carolina, those marriages have been held to be invalid.

I think in North Carolina even, they've been held to be invalid even if the couple relied on it. They sort of vitiated the reasonable reliance rule. So you can actually potentially mess it up if you do it wrong.

I think in North Carolina even, they've been held to be invalid even if the couple relied on it. They sort of vitiated the reasonable reliance rule. So you can actually potentially mess it up if you do it wrong.

And do we think the Supreme Court is also fine with this? Like, you then imagine the court saying, oh, yeah, we decided Davis and, you know, we never meant for that to totally eliminate the exclusionary rule in all cases. But and now it seems to have because they could they could step in and take an exclusionary rule case.

And do we think the Supreme Court is also fine with this? Like, you then imagine the court saying, oh, yeah, we decided Davis and, you know, we never meant for that to totally eliminate the exclusionary rule in all cases. But and now it seems to have because they could they could step in and take an exclusionary rule case.

Sure. I mean, the core of it is that Barnes was shot and killed by a Texas patrol officer in a traffic stop that started with unpaid traffic tickets or unpaid tolls, actually, I think even better. For a rental car. Yeah. Yeah. So it's a kind of, you know, we have it's one of these like many of these stops. Now we have the whole thing on video. So a lot of the facts are not that contested. Right.

Sure. I mean, the core of it is that Barnes was shot and killed by a Texas patrol officer in a traffic stop that started with unpaid traffic tickets or unpaid tolls, actually, I think even better. For a rental car. Yeah. Yeah. So it's a kind of, you know, we have it's one of these like many of these stops. Now we have the whole thing on video. So a lot of the facts are not that contested. Right.

And there's a sort of a roadside stop and some there's some confusion about exactly what happened and when. But at some point during the encounter, Barnes starts to try to drive off.

And there's a sort of a roadside stop and some there's some confusion about exactly what happened and when. But at some point during the encounter, Barnes starts to try to drive off.

While the officer is kind of still there in the car and the officer has maybe slightly before, maybe not, has sort of jumped up onto the rim of the car door and starting to get carried over the car and so is in a dangerous situation, which he responds to with deadly force.

While the officer is kind of still there in the car and the officer has maybe slightly before, maybe not, has sort of jumped up onto the rim of the car door and starting to get carried over the car and so is in a dangerous situation, which he responds to with deadly force.

And so the Fifth Circuit held that this was not an unreasonable use of deadly force despite the very small nature of the – despite the very minor nature of the underlying crime and despite the fact that maybe the officer shouldn't have tried to step onto a car that was speeding away and then –

And so the Fifth Circuit held that this was not an unreasonable use of deadly force despite the very small nature of the – despite the very minor nature of the underlying crime and despite the fact that maybe the officer shouldn't have tried to step onto a car that was speeding away and then –

been surprised and that was dangerous, under this idea that you sort of have to consider only the moment of the threat. You should look at a snapshot and say, at that moment, as the officer's being hauled away on a car by a fleeing person, what are they supposed to do? And so the petitioner went to the Supreme Court and said, no, shouldn't you consider everything?

been surprised and that was dangerous, under this idea that you sort of have to consider only the moment of the threat. You should look at a snapshot and say, at that moment, as the officer's being hauled away on a car by a fleeing person, what are they supposed to do? And so the petitioner went to the Supreme Court and said, no, shouldn't you consider everything?

And that's, I guess, the question. I don't know. Oren, have I left out something?

And that's, I guess, the question. I don't know. Oren, have I left out something?

It's because they're going to reverse the circuit and say you should consider all the facts.

It's because they're going to reverse the circuit and say you should consider all the facts.