Will Friedle

What do you think Traders is?

Traders is literally that with salmon locks being taken.

This gets to the heart of a major difference between you and me, in that we both like a reality show where people, I think, are sort of tasked with the same thing, which is, do you trust people or do you not, right?

Whereas...

I think you like a level of irony and humor and sort of like playfulness.

Yes.

And I like a certain level of like life or death stakes or earnestness.

But at least they're on an island and they really are struggling.

They are starving.

I don't know that.

I know.

You're just seeing the way that they're editing it.

I totally get that.

But...

But it's increasing the stakes for them in a way that when they are deciding whether to trust each other or not, they're literally going to eat or not.

Or, you know, like whereas like traders, I just look at it and I'm like, well, this is just like fun.

You know, mostly rich people sitting around playing like a board game for 10 days.

I know, but the stakes are... You know the stakes are so much higher in Survivor.

I don't, because they're not showing me any of this stuff.

I know, but they are.