Will Pike

And that was a few years ago now.

And just off the basis of that, I've grown organically this task.

I call it the Disability Task Force.

And there's like 14 of us.

And it's still fairly early doors, but...

You know, one of the business scenarios is like going in and doing like a lived experience audit because people put systems in place for disability.

They don't actually know how they work unless you actually speak to a disabled person.

You don't know whether the...

the toilet you've got is accessible, whether the, you know, the wayfinding kind of signs or the visual kind of cues you've got are kind of going to be working for blind people or whatever it is.

To get disabled people to actually come along and test your scenarios and systems is kind of, is I think quite important.

So I've grown the task force and we are, we're open for work, man.

We're open for business.

Like we want to go in there.

We want to do stuff.

We want to change the world.

You said it before that you're very proud of yourself and I think you should be proud of yourself because, yeah, I mean, I think not just the whole overcoming what had happened to you, but I think the work that you're doing now is just so incredibly important.

You didn't have to do that.

You've obviously seen a major issue and you've seen that because you've been forced to see it.

But nonetheless, you're seeing it and you're wanting to do something about it.

Is there a difference between someone who sees an issue and someone who actually says, well, no, I think this needs to change?