Will Schroter

And maybe Blaine did too.

I can't speak for him, but I think I knew I wanted to get away from it.

It was making me very anxious and very unhappy.

You know, it was, and I never wanted anything else.

I never even asked.

In fact, I sort of remember a conversation where they had offered me to like convert some equity to the bigger company.

And I guess the way I looked at it was, and I still feel this way to this day with my own companies,

I only really want to invest in or have stake in what I can control.

At the time, and maybe I would have made more money.

I don't think so.

At the time, I distinctly remember thinking, I don't know what you guys are doing with those other agencies.

I'm on the board.

I can see it at a bird's eye view, but I'm not in there every day.

But I know exactly what my team is doing.

And I like to keep all of my outcome tied to my performance.

Right.

InCord wasn't really anything but a holding company.

If you were to cut out staff, they had like 12 people.

Well, it sold in 2001, 2002.

It sold to a guy named Dan Snyder who owned the Washington Redskins and had made an ungodly amount of money, which is why he owns the Redskins, in a pharmaceutical outsourced sales organization or something.