Will Sommer

And they love betraying each other and talking to reporters.

So it's a lot of fun.

You know, well, you have no idea what kind of dark, twisted stuff I'm getting onto privately.

No, I mean, you know, it's, I think often, you know, and there are certain people, you know, who I cover who have sort of a sense of humor about it.

And so,

They're personally nice, even if they're up to awful things for the country and other people.

Some of them are not, and they're rude and unpleasant people, and I think seriously bad guys.

But on the other hand, at least we can take solace in the fact that I think for a lot of these right-wing media personalities, karma does catch up to them.

I think about people who are just really awful people, and then they'll get indicted.

The We Build the Wall guy was running a grift.

or they'll turn out in some cases to be a pedophile or texting underage boys or something.

And so often there is sort of a recompense waiting.

Yeah, I mean, I think the sort of the world of sort of like right wing media influencers, social media figures has gotten a lot bigger.

I think they've gotten more influential.

I mean, you know, if you had said to me a decade ago or,

You know, whenever seven years ago, Laura Loomer changed herself up to Twitter headquarters.

And if you had said, by the way, you know, in a few years, she'll be getting people fired from the presidential administration or, you know, able to block refugees from visiting America, stuff like this.

I would have said, no, that lady, she's nuts.

And she still is.

But now she has all this influence.