Will Sommer

I mean, you know, Candace Owens is conspiracy theories and she gets into like the Blake Lively, Justin Baldoni lawsuit, all these different things, you know, that that grows into more of a mainstream audience.

I mean, I'll just be out and about with people who are liberals and they say, you know, I think Candace Owens makes some good points about these things.

Oh, my God.

You know, but I mean, that is the they're breaking out into new new spaces, whereas these kind of traditional your Mark Levin's, your Ben Shapiro's, they're stuck in the ship is going down.

Completely.

I mean, and as you said, I think people see this and they go, well, you know, maybe I don't disagree with them about everything, you know, and that's really how it starts.

And unfortunately, as you said, I think because Democrats are not always offering this sort of Israel critical perspective at a moment when I think more and more people are just saying this just isn't right.

You know that I think that provides an opening for these these kind of radical figures.

Well, thank you so much for having me.

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That's right.

I mean, I think you summed it up colorfully there.

Yeah, I mean, so this is, you know, we can look at Elijah Schaefer first, maybe.

I mean, this is a guy who was once Glenn Beck's protege, this kind of rising star in right wing media.

And then he got fired from Glenn Beck's company for allegedly assaulting, sexually assaulting one of his coworkers.

And there were all these other harassment allegations.

And then he said, wait, I'm a real Christian guy now.

I have a wife and kids.

You know, I'm going to live this traditional lifestyle.