Will Sommer

Yeah, that's right.

I mean, I think on one hand, you have people who are really and again, I think a lot of it comes back to Israel.

You have people who are really sort of staunchly pro Israel, often Jewish themselves.

So people like Mark Levin, Ben Shapiro, and they are ardent Candace haters.

Then you have people who I think are less tied to Israel as an issue, and are maybe willing to sort of

Brooke a little, maybe hosted anti-Semite on their show, like in the case of Tucker Carlson with Nick Fuentes.

So let's say we have kind of like Megyn Kelly and Tucker Carlson there.

And then you have this sort of insurgent and often racist or anti-Semitic group, people like Nick Fuentes, although he's clashed a lot with Candace Owens himself, Candace, and these kind of like lesser figures like Ian Carroll, who's another conspiracy theorist.

And so there's this

challenge that i think people like tucker carlson and megan kelly face where they want to be they want to be kind of cool and with it and you know they tucker certainly has his own kind of pet anti-establishment issues like being critical of israel praising qatar i would maybe separate tucker and megan from this because i mean tucker is tucker's brother seems like even crazier than candace uh buckley who's posting a lot i think that's accurate believe

It seems like he might be more on the list.

I think you're accurate.

That's right.

I think in this case, I'm trying to just say that these are people who I think it's an exact.

But Megyn Kelly and Tucker, I think both they want to kind of straddle this world.

And she wants Megyn Kelly wants to have ties to this younger crowd like Tucker.

But they also want to maintain ties to this sort of establishment TPUSA world.

And they're being pulled because TPUSA is basically saying, look, you've got to stop saying that Charlie Kirk's staff murdered him.

Yeah, I mean, I think he's really trying to avoid alienating this kind of young or, you know, in the case of Tucker, not so young, but this kind of anti sort of anti establishment when it comes to to the view on Israel and the Republican Party, this group.

And so you can see why he's trying to deflect it, I think, onto what's a safer issue for him, which is immigration saying, look, why don't we just ban people from from these countries coming in?