Will Storr

on the one hand, and Adam Rutherford, on the other hand, two very smart men, two very opinionated men, two men who I respect, you know, equally, I would say, but two men who are very angry and very lost in the story. They're both lost in the story. So, you know, I love Adam and I love Jordan. I can never imagine being in the same room together.

But equally, with the greatest respect to both of them, I wouldn't trust either of them to talk to me about the science of... you know, gender, talks to me certainly about what's going on in Israel-Palestine. Dispassionately. Yeah, dispassionately. Not because they're dishonest, not because there is anything wrong with them, but because they're lost in the story.

But equally, with the greatest respect to both of them, I wouldn't trust either of them to talk to me about the science of... you know, gender, talks to me certainly about what's going on in Israel-Palestine. Dispassionately. Yeah, dispassionately. Not because they're dishonest, not because there is anything wrong with them, but because they're lost in the story.

But equally, with the greatest respect to both of them, I wouldn't trust either of them to talk to me about the science of... you know, gender, talks to me certainly about what's going on in Israel-Palestine. Dispassionately. Yeah, dispassionately. Not because they're dishonest, not because there is anything wrong with them, but because they're lost in the story.

They're utterly lost in their particular story of the world and the data that they cite, the data that they choose to believe is subservient to the story. So even with people like Adam and Jordan, you know, two brilliant minds, the story comes first as far as I'm concerned. I think that's inarguable. Have you come across knowingness?

They're utterly lost in their particular story of the world and the data that they cite, the data that they choose to believe is subservient to the story. So even with people like Adam and Jordan, you know, two brilliant minds, the story comes first as far as I'm concerned. I think that's inarguable. Have you come across knowingness?

They're utterly lost in their particular story of the world and the data that they cite, the data that they choose to believe is subservient to the story. So even with people like Adam and Jordan, you know, two brilliant minds, the story comes first as far as I'm concerned. I think that's inarguable. Have you come across knowingness?

Yeah, I mean, knowing this sounds like implicit belief. It's the beliefs that are just implicit. And you believe with such kind of ferocity that you can't see that they're beliefs. They just feel like reality to you. And when I talk about the story world, that we all live in this story world, I think that speaks to the idea that we all – you know, we all live in this narrative.

Yeah, I mean, knowing this sounds like implicit belief. It's the beliefs that are just implicit. And you believe with such kind of ferocity that you can't see that they're beliefs. They just feel like reality to you. And when I talk about the story world, that we all live in this story world, I think that speaks to the idea that we all – you know, we all live in this narrative.

Yeah, I mean, knowing this sounds like implicit belief. It's the beliefs that are just implicit. And you believe with such kind of ferocity that you can't see that they're beliefs. They just feel like reality to you. And when I talk about the story world, that we all live in this story world, I think that speaks to the idea that we all – you know, we all live in this narrative.

And, you know, one of the kind of moments in my career as a writer that always sticks with me was when I was in my twenties, I wrote my very first book was about ghosts and went around the world trying to figure out if ghosts existed. It was, it was good fun. And one of the guys that I met was called Morris Gross.

And, you know, one of the kind of moments in my career as a writer that always sticks with me was when I was in my twenties, I wrote my very first book was about ghosts and went around the world trying to figure out if ghosts existed. It was, it was good fun. And one of the guys that I met was called Morris Gross.

And, you know, one of the kind of moments in my career as a writer that always sticks with me was when I was in my twenties, I wrote my very first book was about ghosts and went around the world trying to figure out if ghosts existed. It was, it was good fun. And one of the guys that I met was called Morris Gross.

And he was this, you know, this old guy who lived up in Muswell Hill and he'd been a ghost hunter all his life. And he was, he was famous for investigating the Enfield poltergeist case. He's kind of a legend, Morris Gross. And so I managed to get an interview with him and I went to his house.

And he was this, you know, this old guy who lived up in Muswell Hill and he'd been a ghost hunter all his life. And he was, he was famous for investigating the Enfield poltergeist case. He's kind of a legend, Morris Gross. And so I managed to get an interview with him and I went to his house.

And he was this, you know, this old guy who lived up in Muswell Hill and he'd been a ghost hunter all his life. And he was, he was famous for investigating the Enfield poltergeist case. He's kind of a legend, Morris Gross. And so I managed to get an interview with him and I went to his house.

And as I was leaving his house, he said, you know, you know, Will, he said, if you're looking for evidence of the supernatural, you're going to find it. And it's always stuck with me because I did find evidence for the supernatural, even though I don't believe in the supernatural. And it's always stuck with me because I think the brain is this amazing evidence finding machine.

And as I was leaving his house, he said, you know, you know, Will, he said, if you're looking for evidence of the supernatural, you're going to find it. And it's always stuck with me because I did find evidence for the supernatural, even though I don't believe in the supernatural. And it's always stuck with me because I think the brain is this amazing evidence finding machine.

And as I was leaving his house, he said, you know, you know, Will, he said, if you're looking for evidence of the supernatural, you're going to find it. And it's always stuck with me because I did find evidence for the supernatural, even though I don't believe in the supernatural. And it's always stuck with me because I think the brain is this amazing evidence finding machine.

If you've got a belief, The brain will find evidence to back up your belief. No matter what you believe about gender or Israel-Palestine or whatever it might be, your brain is going to find multitudinous evidence to back up what you believe. You're going to see it everywhere. And that's one of the tricks of the kind of storytelling brain. We live in this story world. We live in this narrative.