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And if you combine those capabilities, you get all the benefits of the Bitcoin network with the speed that Lightning provides.

I think it's important to have technology be as usable as possible, right?

Yeah, and I think it's important that we can enable those technologies as far as the specifics of Lightning versus Bitcoin and all the trade-offs.

I think that's for other people to talk through.

Not significant, no, but I believe what we want to see over time is giving both sellers and customers an option, right?

At the end of the day, there's not a lot of options for digital currencies or digital ways to do transactions, let's just say, that aren't Visa and MasterCard, right?

You have ACH.

kind of slow, right?

You have other payment mechanisms and payment rails.

So we just believe that it's important to offer options and sellers and customers, again, will choose technologies that are both more cost-effective, better user experiences.

And as long as we keep investing in that, I believe good things happen over time.

Can't comment specifically on the kind of number of transactions.

We're seeing a lot of adoption and interest in just the Bitcoin product portfolio.

Right.

So conversions is taking off a ton, which is basically taking a percentage of your sales and converting those to Bitcoin.

And, you know, there's a ton of excitement from a lot of sellers, a lot of customers on our very recent Bitcoin payment rail launch a couple of weeks ago.

ultimately you know people need to make decisions for themselves right and i think i want to build the technology so that people can make those decisions and that they don't have gatekeepers right that are making decisions for them and as long as i can do that i think it's up to those people to make the best decisions for them whether that be to sell transact etc um and i think that's kind of

how I think about both prioritizing products, but also kind of what we build and how we build it.

So I think a couple of things.

First is many countries, Canada and Australia already do this, right?