Willem Marx

The behavior of these men, although it may be objectionable to many, didn't necessarily amount to sex trafficking technically.

What's so striking, though, about this decision and why it may be different to the Diddy trial was that on this jury was

a very accomplished, very experienced lawyer who had an understanding of the law, who ended up serving as the foreperson.

And my suspicion, although I can't confirm this right now, is that as that foreperson, she was the one that was really explaining the law repeatedly to her fellow jurors.

And that may have been while they understood that this was

A stretch, as it were.

There were some complexities around applying this behavior in this law that they were willing to follow the prosecution's theory of the case and therefore were willing to apply these federal statutes to the behavior that they'd seen described.

So just based on the prosecution statements prior to this trial, they said they'd spoken to around 60 women during the trial.

There was a brief moment and it was one of those ones that you would miss if you weren't really paying attention.

They said they'd spoken to 70.

I have probably myself spoken to something approaching that number at this point and, you know, have pretty conclusive evidence about incidents dating back to the early 2000s when

The brothers, I think the first instance I've come across in my reporting is when they were, the twins were, I think, sophomores at high school.

And Charles, my older brother, was a junior in Miami at Michael M. Cropp High School.

Yeah, August 6th, 10 a.m.

There will be a couple of conferences involving the various attorneys on both sides and the judge in July.

There are mandatory minimum sentences for some of these counts.

There are guidelines for some of these counts.

There will be efforts by the defense to provide mitigating factors that might induce the judge to think about a lower band of that

guideline for the sentences there will be no doubt arguments by the prosecution about aggravating factors the age of some of these women um not least the lack of contrition so far shown by the brothers and so you know i've talked to half a dozen attorneys both involved in the case and observing this saying that this could be 30 to 40 years even to life and so as the former general counsel of the fbi judge valerie caproni has throughout this trial been

very tough on the brothers and their defense teams.