William de Rumpel

Now that would not have happened presumably 20 or 30 years earlier.

Now, Carnarvon does get bits out.

Because when you go to Downton Abbey today, in the basement, there is some stuff.

There's quite a lot of Egyptian bits and bobs.

But it's not, obviously, the gold mask or any of the really big knockout objects.

objects ancient material being leveraged for modern fundraising so sadly from a british point of view the big moment of of wave two top mania if you like is 1972 when president sadat who's the guy uh who uh

takes over after Nasser, the guy who we met most recently with the 1973 war, attacking over the Suez Canal, and then Camp David.

Those are all episodes which you can listen to on our backlist.

He sends Tutankhamen to the British Museum in London.

And

I remember as a seven-year-old, some of my earliest memories, the excitement.

I was already mad keen on Tutankhamen and I knew already the galleries in Edinburgh backwards.

And I begged and I begged and I begged to go to London to see this thing.

And it was my first ever trip to London.

And I went down.

And I remember being amazed by everything, by the double-decker buses and the Hare Krishna people who were outside the British Museum playing on their drums.

And then going in and this darkened museum space with this amazing lighting of this, you know, completely iconic death mask at the centre.

And I remember...

you know as a literally a seven-year-old peering up at it because i was physically down below it you know you have certain memories from your childhood which are completely clear this for me is one of those it's my first big moment my first big trip the most exciting thing that ever happened to me and it was everything about that entire trip is uh is absolutely sharp in my memory

You're too young, Campbell.