William Durand-Poor

Jessica, how did he come to this and does anyone take this book at all seriously?

1938, to be Jewish, even in your own London is quite uncomfortable.

It's all quite new stuff.

We should say at this point that it is significant that he has a Jewish publisher.

He is my great, great, great uncle, Lennon Wolfe.

Well, Virginia is my great, great aunt.

I'm not related to Lennon except by marriage.

But yes, and that was the publisher.

The Hogarth Press was the publisher that published this book.

Now, obviously, whole libraries have been written on this subject since then.

It's a long time ago in theology, 1938.

And a lot of what Freud said has been poo-pooed by academics since.

But what did he get right?

What elements of that book stand up, if any?

When was he on the right trail, shall we say?

Biological link between the two ideas.

Now, Francesca, in your wonderful book, God and Anatomy, which I recommend everybody to go out and buy now, because it just blew my mind.

And it's an extraordinary, extraordinary book.

But your kind of main argument is that the God of the later Hebrew Bible, well, he's the same God, but he's very, very differently presented to the God of the earliest Israelite religion, or the gods, as you put it, of the earliest Israelite religions.

And that...