William Happer

And so if you're hating CO2, at least that's better than hating your neighbor.

I think, Joe, it's true sea level is rising.

It's different at different shores because the land is also rising and sinking.

Right.

But it's not very much, and it hasn't accelerated.

There's no evidence that CO2 has made any difference.

It started rising roughly 1800 at the end of the Little Ice Age, and it's not changing very much.

There's this nice Russian proverb that Ronald Reagan loved so much, trust but verify.

Yes.

And it's hard to verify if you're an average citizen something about climate.

Right.

Joe, let me just say a little more about what Dick commented on the Navier-Stokes equation, which describes fluid motion, the atmosphere, the oceans.

And it really is a very hard mathematical problem to solve because they're not only partial differential equations.

They're what are called nonlinear partial differential equations.

There's a joke about Werner Heisenberg, who was the inventor of quantum mechanics, a very bright guy.

He was the head of the Nazi atomic bomb program during World War II.

He was captured by the Americans and the British.

Because of this activity, he was forbidden to work on nuclear physics later, after the victory.

And so he decided to work on fluid mechanics on solving the Navier-Stokes equation.

And he was, as I said, a tremendously talented physicist, but he found it very hard.