William Holbert (Wild Bill)

So it would be me and the other person.

I had like a loaded six-shot Smith & Wesson revolver and so did he.

And between 60 and 80 people.

And then I would take them just outside of Jamaica and tie up on the open ocean to another boat where they would jump across and the Jamaicans would count them and then carry them on.

That's all I know about the leg.

Now, I assume that from Jamaica, they would either go to Florida or Texas or maybe even Alabama.

But somewhere in the Gulf of Mexico, I'm sure, is the way that they would go from there and then on.

One thing that happened...

Remember, these are like clients.

They're not exactly treated as well as like if you're flying US Air or going on a Carnival cruise, but they're still clients.

There's still people who have paid money to be smuggled in, and so they're not to be mistreated.

And even though they're not to be mistreated, oftentimes they were mistreated.

Anyway, I tried to run my operation very professionally and run it as if I was a captain of a tourism boat.

I was nice to everybody, tried to make sure.

Because the trip was about a 350-mile one-way, 700-mile round trip, and it took about four days.

Because you're in a boat that runs about 11 or 12 knots, nautical miles, which is like 14 miles an hour.

So it takes a long time to get there and get back.

We go to sea two days, you know, day and night later, we're there in Jamaica dropping people off.

We pull up beside the Jamaican boat, but the seas are very heavy on the Caribbean that day.

They were about 15 foot seas, which isn't very high for the Atlantic, but for the Caribbean that's really high, it's really high seas.