William Sullivan

So people seem to think, oh, Jesus, no, that's not right.

They're just telling the story.

And when they come in here,

they can see the equipment and the guys will tell them and talk to them about it, you know.

Yeah, well, I have to say, up until COVID, we were getting, say, three schools a week, sometimes four a week.

After COVID, now it dropped off drastically.

School tours and the likes.

Well, school buses were basically €550 to €600 for a day trip before COVID, and then it went up to €1,100 after COVID.

And then, believe it or believe not, what's doing an awful lot of damage at the moment with school trips is the war in Ukraine.

You have 100,000 Ukrainians living in Ireland now.

Their kids are going to school and the schools are kind of going, I don't think that's the right thing for them to be learning about.

And they've stopped coming.

And that's the reality of it.

Well, at the end of the day, when you look at it, we've always had a war going on.

And the problem is people aren't learning.

The politicians aren't learning.

And there's money to be made in war.

And that's the way I see it anyway.

And I'll say that on my behalf.

What do you mean by that?