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Winston Marshall

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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
535. Is It Too Late for the UK? A Candid Talk with Winston Marshall

on Twitter a week or two ago because there was an argument he had with Fraser Nelson where he argued that Rishi Sunak, our former prime minister, might indeed be British, but that he, as a brown Hindu, was not English. Now, that erupted where he was smeared by left-wingers, you know, the classic types, saying that he was arguing for ethno-nationalism, which he was absolutely not.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
535. Is It Too Late for the UK? A Candid Talk with Winston Marshall

But even within the right, there was no consensus on what that is. Now, I'll just tie it back to my thesis about open society. In 1944, there was a writer called Hans Pohn who... It was similar to Karl Popper, that there's a... They're thinking, how do we separate the good and the bad here about what a national identity is?

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
535. Is It Too Late for the UK? A Candid Talk with Winston Marshall

But even within the right, there was no consensus on what that is. Now, I'll just tie it back to my thesis about open society. In 1944, there was a writer called Hans Pohn who... It was similar to Karl Popper, that there's a... They're thinking, how do we separate the good and the bad here about what a national identity is?

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
535. Is It Too Late for the UK? A Candid Talk with Winston Marshall

But even within the right, there was no consensus on what that is. Now, I'll just tie it back to my thesis about open society. In 1944, there was a writer called Hans Pohn who... It was similar to Karl Popper, that there's a... They're thinking, how do we separate the good and the bad here about what a national identity is?

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
535. Is It Too Late for the UK? A Candid Talk with Winston Marshall

And he didn't coin the phrase civic nationalism, but his thesis basically was what would become civic nationalism, which is civic nationalism, good, is... democracy, I guess, geographic sovereignty or lands, you know, sovereignty, and a sort of civic duty.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
535. Is It Too Late for the UK? A Candid Talk with Winston Marshall

And he didn't coin the phrase civic nationalism, but his thesis basically was what would become civic nationalism, which is civic nationalism, good, is... democracy, I guess, geographic sovereignty or lands, you know, sovereignty, and a sort of civic duty.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
535. Is It Too Late for the UK? A Candid Talk with Winston Marshall

And he didn't coin the phrase civic nationalism, but his thesis basically was what would become civic nationalism, which is civic nationalism, good, is... democracy, I guess, geographic sovereignty or lands, you know, sovereignty, and a sort of civic duty.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
535. Is It Too Late for the UK? A Candid Talk with Winston Marshall

And then on the other side, they have ethnicity, which we probably all, it's different from country to country, but we all agree that it's a bad idea to say just ethnicity is on the other side of, it's the ethno-nationalism. But they also lumped in culture. So they put the cultural side in the ethno bucket. So you have this growth now.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
535. Is It Too Late for the UK? A Candid Talk with Winston Marshall

And then on the other side, they have ethnicity, which we probably all, it's different from country to country, but we all agree that it's a bad idea to say just ethnicity is on the other side of, it's the ethno-nationalism. But they also lumped in culture. So they put the cultural side in the ethno bucket. So you have this growth now.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
535. Is It Too Late for the UK? A Candid Talk with Winston Marshall

And then on the other side, they have ethnicity, which we probably all, it's different from country to country, but we all agree that it's a bad idea to say just ethnicity is on the other side of, it's the ethno-nationalism. But they also lumped in culture. So they put the cultural side in the ethno bucket. So you have this growth now.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
535. Is It Too Late for the UK? A Candid Talk with Winston Marshall

So people, fast forward 80 years and you have diversity as our greatest strength, when actually I happen to believe unity is our greatest strength, or rather I should say diversity without unity it all kind of crumbles apart.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
535. Is It Too Late for the UK? A Candid Talk with Winston Marshall

So people, fast forward 80 years and you have diversity as our greatest strength, when actually I happen to believe unity is our greatest strength, or rather I should say diversity without unity it all kind of crumbles apart.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
535. Is It Too Late for the UK? A Candid Talk with Winston Marshall

So people, fast forward 80 years and you have diversity as our greatest strength, when actually I happen to believe unity is our greatest strength, or rather I should say diversity without unity it all kind of crumbles apart.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
535. Is It Too Late for the UK? A Candid Talk with Winston Marshall

Well, they did that as a reaction to the Holocaust. Yes, yes. And to the war. To the war. And that's, by the way, what we're seeing crumbling now. That's why when people are so upset about J.D. Vance's speech in Munich,

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
535. Is It Too Late for the UK? A Candid Talk with Winston Marshall

Well, they did that as a reaction to the Holocaust. Yes, yes. And to the war. To the war. And that's, by the way, what we're seeing crumbling now. That's why when people are so upset about J.D. Vance's speech in Munich,

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
535. Is It Too Late for the UK? A Candid Talk with Winston Marshall

Well, they did that as a reaction to the Holocaust. Yes, yes. And to the war. To the war. And that's, by the way, what we're seeing crumbling now. That's why when people are so upset about J.D. Vance's speech in Munich,

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
535. Is It Too Late for the UK? A Candid Talk with Winston Marshall

It's because they can't... Anything that goes against the open society ideology, they have this dichotomy, which is a false dichotomy, which means that if you're against that, you must be for the Holocaust. Right, you must be a fascist. You must be a fascist. That's why they use the term fascism, because they actually can't code it any other way. They don't even know they have this ideology.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
535. Is It Too Late for the UK? A Candid Talk with Winston Marshall

It's because they can't... Anything that goes against the open society ideology, they have this dichotomy, which is a false dichotomy, which means that if you're against that, you must be for the Holocaust. Right, you must be a fascist. You must be a fascist. That's why they use the term fascism, because they actually can't code it any other way. They don't even know they have this ideology.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
535. Is It Too Late for the UK? A Candid Talk with Winston Marshall

It's because they can't... Anything that goes against the open society ideology, they have this dichotomy, which is a false dichotomy, which means that if you're against that, you must be for the Holocaust. Right, you must be a fascist. You must be a fascist. That's why they use the term fascism, because they actually can't code it any other way. They don't even know they have this ideology.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
535. Is It Too Late for the UK? A Candid Talk with Winston Marshall

They've been swimming in it for so long.