Winston Marshall

Well, there were murmurs that Sir Keir Starmer had recognised the ridiculousness of the non-crime hate incidences, the NCHIs. But there have since been more murmurs from the Home Secretary, Yvette Cooper, saying that they were just going to carry on.

I'd say one reason why these have been so successful is it's much easier for the police to book someone with an NCHI than to actually do the difficult work of capturing burglars or thieves or real criminals.

I'd say one reason why these have been so successful is it's much easier for the police to book someone with an NCHI than to actually do the difficult work of capturing burglars or thieves or real criminals.

Well, I mean, they've also been going after journalists. There's a journalist called Alison Pearson at The Telegraph who had a knock at the door from the police because of a year-old tweet she had deleted in the wake of October 7th, I believe. She would be around London and posted a picture of someone with what she believed was either a Hezbollah or a Hamas flag.

Well, I mean, they've also been going after journalists. There's a journalist called Alison Pearson at The Telegraph who had a knock at the door from the police because of a year-old tweet she had deleted in the wake of October 7th, I believe. She would be around London and posted a picture of someone with what she believed was either a Hezbollah or a Hamas flag.

and saying something like, this is not pretty or this is no good. And then when someone corrected her and said she'd got the wrong flag, it was some sort of Iranian resistance flag, I forget the exact details, she immediately deleted it. Nevertheless, a year later, she gets a knock on the door. This is journalists now having the fear of God put into them. And it does have an effect on people.

and saying something like, this is not pretty or this is no good. And then when someone corrected her and said she'd got the wrong flag, it was some sort of Iranian resistance flag, I forget the exact details, she immediately deleted it. Nevertheless, a year later, she gets a knock on the door. This is journalists now having the fear of God put into them. And it does have an effect on people.

What was very interesting after the August riots was that everyone suddenly got like, oh, what can I say? Like, can I not say? Everyone got nervous to use social media. Everyone got nervous to speak

What was very interesting after the August riots was that everyone suddenly got like, oh, what can I say? Like, can I not say? Everyone got nervous to use social media. Everyone got nervous to speak

in on the television or or elsewhere i i heard stories i know a lot of people who work in media and and in live broadcasters was kind of scared to in case they'd lost their jobs because they didn't want to say the wrong thing there was it was very nebulous what exactly the rules were it really wasn't clear so it does it does have a stifling uh effect on on speech sakir starmer

in on the television or or elsewhere i i heard stories i know a lot of people who work in media and and in live broadcasters was kind of scared to in case they'd lost their jobs because they didn't want to say the wrong thing there was it was very nebulous what exactly the rules were it really wasn't clear so it does it does have a stifling uh effect on on speech sakir starmer

Interestingly, this weekend, this is a bit of a turn in the topic, but it's declared that he wants to clean up the bureaucracy in Britain. This may be a Labour version of Doge, which I am very excited by the prospect. Nice. I think you're right that he is a serious guy. I think that he's a smart guy. He's a man who came up through law.

Interestingly, this weekend, this is a bit of a turn in the topic, but it's declared that he wants to clean up the bureaucracy in Britain. This may be a Labour version of Doge, which I am very excited by the prospect. Nice. I think you're right that he is a serious guy. I think that he's a smart guy. He's a man who came up through law.

He was chief, I've forgotten his exact, chief crown prosecutor, I believe. And so he's probably very academic, highly intelligent, bookish type, but not much personality, but the sort of person in the managerial classes who gets to the top.

He was chief, I've forgotten his exact, chief crown prosecutor, I believe. And so he's probably very academic, highly intelligent, bookish type, but not much personality, but the sort of person in the managerial classes who gets to the top.

When the riots were happening, and I... No, no, when... Fast forward a couple of months, and it was revealed that the killer, who much about his identity had been kept secret, then they started revealing more information regarding... his actual criminal convictions. So actually, I should colour this in a little bit more.

When the riots were happening, and I... No, no, when... Fast forward a couple of months, and it was revealed that the killer, who much about his identity had been kept secret, then they started revealing more information regarding... his actual criminal convictions. So actually, I should colour this in a little bit more.

About two months after, timed exactly with the budget announced by the government, the Merseyside police announced that he was also being charged, as well as for murder, with having al-Qaeda pamphlets at home, as well as ricin. So he was being charged on terrorist charges.

About two months after, timed exactly with the budget announced by the government, the Merseyside police announced that he was also being charged, as well as for murder, with having al-Qaeda pamphlets at home, as well as ricin. So he was being charged on terrorist charges.

So one of the reasons why the riots had happened was because there was no information about what was going on after that killing, and there was a real sense of anger. There was a sense of frustration that the police, the government, weren't doing the right thing. Now, I've got to paint the picture further. It's a complex story, and I believe the one that's decades old.