Winston Marshall

Yes, they do, but non-citizens are also subject to U.S. code, Title 8, which is a set of rules and laws that applies to them because they are not naturalized citizens. And so the problem with Mahmoud Khalil is that on the one hand, if he was an American citizen, This wouldn't be a conversation. He's done absolutely nothing that is illegal if he was an American citizen.

But because he is not, and he's originally from Gaza City, he's Palestinian, I think he also lived, he might have Syrian nationality as well. He is subject to Title VIII of the U.S. Code and the Immigration and Nationality Act. In it, it says, if you... If you represent an organization that shows support for a designated terrorist organization, you are bound, you don't have any right to stay here.

But because he is not, and he's originally from Gaza City, he's Palestinian, I think he also lived, he might have Syrian nationality as well. He is subject to Title VIII of the U.S. Code and the Immigration and Nationality Act. In it, it says, if you... If you represent an organization that shows support for a designated terrorist organization, you are bound, you don't have any right to stay here.

And what Mahmoud Khalil did as the chief spokesperson, or not, Sorry, he was a spokesperson for and a lead negotiator for Columbia University Apartheid Divest, which is one of these university groups involved with Gaza Plaza or the encampment in New York City, which I think people will know about. Because of that, he falls almost exactly in line with this code. So the debate seems to be whether...

And what Mahmoud Khalil did as the chief spokesperson, or not, Sorry, he was a spokesperson for and a lead negotiator for Columbia University Apartheid Divest, which is one of these university groups involved with Gaza Plaza or the encampment in New York City, which I think people will know about. Because of that, he falls almost exactly in line with this code. So the debate seems to be whether...

Yes, he does normally have First Amendment, but does this other law supersede that? I guess there's the question there that will play out in court.

Yes, he does normally have First Amendment, but does this other law supersede that? I guess there's the question there that will play out in court.

The Mahmoud Khalil story, I mean, he seems to be the new George Floyd. And by that, I mean, he is the new progressive martyr, the new progressive poster boy, although he's now garbed in a kefir. And he... This is a story that's not going away. I think that it's really riled the progressives.

The Mahmoud Khalil story, I mean, he seems to be the new George Floyd. And by that, I mean, he is the new progressive martyr, the new progressive poster boy, although he's now garbed in a kefir. And he... This is a story that's not going away. I think that it's really riled the progressives.

And I note now the progressives suddenly care about cancel culture and progressives suddenly care about free speech again. So I suspect that this is a real turning point in America.

And I note now the progressives suddenly care about cancel culture and progressives suddenly care about free speech again. So I suspect that this is a real turning point in America.

I am in London at the moment building the show. I'm about to move into a new studio, but I'll be back in America and I am coming. I'll be in the East Coast and maybe even the West Coast. I'll give you a ding, Dr. Drew, if I make it over there.

I am in London at the moment building the show. I'm about to move into a new studio, but I'll be back in America and I am coming. I'll be in the East Coast and maybe even the West Coast. I'll give you a ding, Dr. Drew, if I make it over there.

We could talk endlessly. Why don't we do it in New York when I come over?

We could talk endlessly. Why don't we do it in New York when I come over?

No, we can do it now. Do you want to do it now?

No, we can do it now. Do you want to do it now?

Well, actually, just to be more specific, I got in trouble because I retweeted a book by Andy Ngo, who is an American Asian conservative journalist who wrote a book about Antifa and the BLM riots in 2020. He documented... Everything from the 25 people killed between George Floyd and the end of October.

Well, actually, just to be more specific, I got in trouble because I retweeted a book by Andy Ngo, who is an American Asian conservative journalist who wrote a book about Antifa and the BLM riots in 2020. He documented... Everything from the 25 people killed between George Floyd and the end of October.

He documented the whole month of July where the insurrection at the Hatfield Courthouse in Portland, Oregon, all of that damage, the $2 billion worth of damage done by the BLM riots. He documented all of that. And that book, you know, BLM is, you just can't, in the creative industries, you can't criticize it.