Witney Carson

But because Bobby was so popular with that demographic that, I mean, it makes sense looking back now why that happened.

Yeah, you're right.

That younger demographic, you don't think about that.

Before the age of social media and really getting to get this younger generation hooked on the show, that wasn't his youth, which would be such an asset now, was actually a detriment back then.

Right.

If he did the show right now, I think hands down he would win.

He would take it.

It's just the timing of it all.

But honestly, we talk about it all the time, Milo and I. It actually did us...

good that we didn't win because now it's so so talked about um which you know we'll take it we'll take yeah I mean it really is finding wins in other ways that like that really was the win you know the win was in that situation that everyone for years since has been like talk about a robbery

Exactly.

Yes.

And I remember the first, who was it that, do you remember Chelsea Hightower?

One of the first pros.

Yes.

I remember her telling me, celebrate in the small successes.

So like every, if they point their toe on a certain count, that celebrate, celebrate that.

Right.

So like I kind of had that mentality throughout the years of just like celebrating those moments.

Well, that's a perfect transition into our buddy, Robert Irwin.