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Yann LeCun

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#416 โ€“ Yann Lecun: Meta AI, Open Source, Limits of LLMs, AGI & the Future of AI

issues that people from different communities would disagree with in the first place so there's only kind of a relatively small number of things that people will sort of agree on you know basic principles but beyond that if you if you want those systems to be useful they will necessarily have to offend a number of people inevitably

Lex Fridman Podcast
#416 โ€“ Yann Lecun: Meta AI, Open Source, Limits of LLMs, AGI & the Future of AI

issues that people from different communities would disagree with in the first place so there's only kind of a relatively small number of things that people will sort of agree on you know basic principles but beyond that if you if you want those systems to be useful they will necessarily have to offend a number of people inevitably

Lex Fridman Podcast
#416 โ€“ Yann Lecun: Meta AI, Open Source, Limits of LLMs, AGI & the Future of AI

issues that people from different communities would disagree with in the first place so there's only kind of a relatively small number of things that people will sort of agree on you know basic principles but beyond that if you if you want those systems to be useful they will necessarily have to offend a number of people inevitably

Lex Fridman Podcast
#416 โ€“ Yann Lecun: Meta AI, Open Source, Limits of LLMs, AGI & the Future of AI

That's right. Open source enables diversity.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#416 โ€“ Yann Lecun: Meta AI, Open Source, Limits of LLMs, AGI & the Future of AI

That's right. Open source enables diversity.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#416 โ€“ Yann Lecun: Meta AI, Open Source, Limits of LLMs, AGI & the Future of AI

That's right. Open source enables diversity.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#416 โ€“ Yann Lecun: Meta AI, Open Source, Limits of LLMs, AGI & the Future of AI

Yeah. I mean, there are some limits to what, you know, the same way there are limits to free speech, there has to be some limit to the kind of stuff that those systems might be authorized to do. to produce some guardrails.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#416 โ€“ Yann Lecun: Meta AI, Open Source, Limits of LLMs, AGI & the Future of AI

Yeah. I mean, there are some limits to what, you know, the same way there are limits to free speech, there has to be some limit to the kind of stuff that those systems might be authorized to do. to produce some guardrails.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#416 โ€“ Yann Lecun: Meta AI, Open Source, Limits of LLMs, AGI & the Future of AI

Yeah. I mean, there are some limits to what, you know, the same way there are limits to free speech, there has to be some limit to the kind of stuff that those systems might be authorized to do. to produce some guardrails.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#416 โ€“ Yann Lecun: Meta AI, Open Source, Limits of LLMs, AGI & the Future of AI

So, I mean, that's one thing I've been interested in, which is in the type of architecture that we were discussing before, where the output of a system is a result of an inference to satisfy an objective. That objective can include guardrails. And we can put guardrails in open source systems. I mean, if we eventually have systems that are built with this blueprint.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#416 โ€“ Yann Lecun: Meta AI, Open Source, Limits of LLMs, AGI & the Future of AI

So, I mean, that's one thing I've been interested in, which is in the type of architecture that we were discussing before, where the output of a system is a result of an inference to satisfy an objective. That objective can include guardrails. And we can put guardrails in open source systems. I mean, if we eventually have systems that are built with this blueprint.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#416 โ€“ Yann Lecun: Meta AI, Open Source, Limits of LLMs, AGI & the Future of AI

So, I mean, that's one thing I've been interested in, which is in the type of architecture that we were discussing before, where the output of a system is a result of an inference to satisfy an objective. That objective can include guardrails. And we can put guardrails in open source systems. I mean, if we eventually have systems that are built with this blueprint.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#416 โ€“ Yann Lecun: Meta AI, Open Source, Limits of LLMs, AGI & the Future of AI

We can put guardrails in those systems that guarantee that there is sort of a minimum set of guardrails that make the system non-dangerous and non-toxic, etc. You know, basic things that everybody would agree on. And then, you know, the fine-tuning that people will add or the additional guardrails that people will add will kind of cater to their community, whatever it is.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#416 โ€“ Yann Lecun: Meta AI, Open Source, Limits of LLMs, AGI & the Future of AI

We can put guardrails in those systems that guarantee that there is sort of a minimum set of guardrails that make the system non-dangerous and non-toxic, etc. You know, basic things that everybody would agree on. And then, you know, the fine-tuning that people will add or the additional guardrails that people will add will kind of cater to their community, whatever it is.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#416 โ€“ Yann Lecun: Meta AI, Open Source, Limits of LLMs, AGI & the Future of AI

We can put guardrails in those systems that guarantee that there is sort of a minimum set of guardrails that make the system non-dangerous and non-toxic, etc. You know, basic things that everybody would agree on. And then, you know, the fine-tuning that people will add or the additional guardrails that people will add will kind of cater to their community, whatever it is.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#416 โ€“ Yann Lecun: Meta AI, Open Source, Limits of LLMs, AGI & the Future of AI

Right, so the increasing number of studies on this seems to point to the fact that it doesn't help. So having an LLM doesn't help you design or build a bioweapon or a chemical weapon if you already have access to a search engine and a library. And so the sort of increased information you get or the ease with which you get it doesn't really help you. That's the first thing. The second thing is,

Lex Fridman Podcast
#416 โ€“ Yann Lecun: Meta AI, Open Source, Limits of LLMs, AGI & the Future of AI

Right, so the increasing number of studies on this seems to point to the fact that it doesn't help. So having an LLM doesn't help you design or build a bioweapon or a chemical weapon if you already have access to a search engine and a library. And so the sort of increased information you get or the ease with which you get it doesn't really help you. That's the first thing. The second thing is,

Lex Fridman Podcast
#416 โ€“ Yann Lecun: Meta AI, Open Source, Limits of LLMs, AGI & the Future of AI

Right, so the increasing number of studies on this seems to point to the fact that it doesn't help. So having an LLM doesn't help you design or build a bioweapon or a chemical weapon if you already have access to a search engine and a library. And so the sort of increased information you get or the ease with which you get it doesn't really help you. That's the first thing. The second thing is,

Lex Fridman Podcast
#416 โ€“ Yann Lecun: Meta AI, Open Source, Limits of LLMs, AGI & the Future of AI

It's one thing to have a list of instructions of how to make a chemical weapon, for example, or a bioweapon. It's another thing to actually build it. And it's much harder than you might think, and an LLM will not help you with that. In fact, nobody in the world, not even countries, use bioweapons because most of the time they have no idea how to protect their own populations against it.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#416 โ€“ Yann Lecun: Meta AI, Open Source, Limits of LLMs, AGI & the Future of AI

It's one thing to have a list of instructions of how to make a chemical weapon, for example, or a bioweapon. It's another thing to actually build it. And it's much harder than you might think, and an LLM will not help you with that. In fact, nobody in the world, not even countries, use bioweapons because most of the time they have no idea how to protect their own populations against it.