Yumiko Kadota

So even after I quit, within a few weeks of quitting, I thought, well, I better apply for my next job.

What am I going to do next?

And I really took ages to accept the fact that I really needed to

to take a break.

And so it took me actually two good years to completely recover from burning out.

And since then, I've had to really think about what sort of job I would be willing to do that didn't sacrifice my sanity.

So it's been quite a long process.

And I think that's something that it's important to recognize and something I was mindful of throughout reading that first book.

I think at the beginning, there's a lot of self-doubt that I pick up.

And I think that's probably an element of burnout as well.

So when we think about burnout, there's three domains.

So the obvious one is the physical and emotional exhaustion.

But then the other two domains are anxiety.

feeling this diminished sense of personal accomplishment in your job.

And thirdly, a feeling of cynicism.

So I thought that at the beginning, she had a lot of self-doubt.

And even though this is such a ridiculous job, you're just watching someone.

It's like you're doing Gogglebox.

And she said, oh, could I do this job?

And, you know, she even said, oh, I felt like what I was doing actually mattered.