Yuval Abraham
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37 appearances
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4 series
first heard Feb 2025
last heard Mar 2025
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And I see this tendency both in the Palestinian side and also in the Israeli side to not assume responsibility for crimes or actions because the other side has committed crimes. And looking at, you know, October 7th, It's almost a year and a half since where, you know, if 38 Israeli children were killed on October 7th, each one of their deaths is a crime.
We have now in Gaza 17,000 children, 10,000 children who are missing. And when you talk with Israelis about this, they have this mirror image of justification where they point to the crime of October 7th and say, well, this justifies everything that we have done since.
You're right. Recently, there was a vote in the Knesset about a statement where the Israeli Knesset said there will never be a Palestinian state. And there are 120 Knesset members, parliament members. The statement passed and only eight parliament members, I think that was the number eight or maybe it was nine, opposed out of 120. Most of the eight were Palestinian Israelis.
There was only one Jewish Israeli parliament member who opposed that. So this is a pressing issue. And it's very terrifying for me because I think that you are right. I mean, there is no... discourse here locally that could lead to a political solution. And we are hungry for hope.
Yeah. Well, I think this is why the Oscars help, because, you know, when a film is nominated, then suddenly and I see this now in Israeli society, we released the film now online in Israel and Palestine. And of course, it's challenging. But, you know, I'm beginning to read comments from Israelis who are not necessarily like me.
As you said, they are not part of the did you call it a dying minority or like a small minority, which which I hope changes.
Because for me, I feel this is my main responsibility as an Israeli, is to work with the Israeli society and to try to... I'm going to have a bunch of interviews on mainstream Israeli media and to try to show people the way in which I see the world and to try to convince them to come closer.
Wow.
This is a key issue, David. If I look at, you know, the few years that we had leading to October 7th that had the protests against the judicial overhaul, against the weakening of the Israeli judicial system and the Supreme Court, which were policies that Netanyahu had tried to promote.
You know, this was something that was led by, let's say, the Israeli center-left, the liberal community in Israel. Many of them live in Tel Aviv. And I would attend those protests because I thought they were important.
But one word that was missing there, because people were chanting democracy and democracy, that was missing from the mainstream side of this protest was occupation, was Palestinians, was a political solution. And I think that for far too long, The Israeli liberal side has sort of allowed, not only allowed, but had contributed for things that were happening in the occupied West Bank and in Gaza.
And there is a contradiction here that we are seeing today. I mean, things are related. Many people on the left have warned for many, many years that, you know, what is happening to the Palestinians will eventually seep through into the Israeli society. And of course, like the Israeli right is getting stronger. And then the oppression of Palestinians is getting bigger.
And then Hamas is getting stronger. And then by attacking Israeli civilians, the Israeli right is... But there is this loop that we are seeing where it's like a win-win for those who do not want a political solution. And I think it's really important to understand that... It's not some binary thing. It's not like either the Palestinians win or the Israelis win.
In a sense, it's either we all win or we all lose. And I hope that the Israeli liberals, to get back to my previous point, will not continue to protect the occupation or apartheid. And we will try to work to have an alternative because we really need this. We need this like water, really. There will be no other way forward if there is no political horizon.
We have 45 seconds left. And Basel needs to speak first, I think. But I think for me, if I will say something concrete about the current moment, I think for me, what is the most urgent thing is that all stages of the ceasefire will be implemented. And there's a very high risk. I think in the short term, the pressure should really be on
on moving and doing all the stages of the ceasefire agreement so we can get out of this current, you know, bloodbath that we are in and begin, hopefully, working for a political solution.
Thank you very much.
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