Yuval Noah Harari

Yeah.

And, you know, and the relations are really good.

They are not just, you know, make-believe.

They are not just based on some kind of material benefit.

The relations are really good.

And it's not even 100 years.

So the example I gave before of Catholics and Protestants in Germany, after slaughtering each other for so long, they reconciled.

Now, in many cases, anger builds systems that then feed the anger more and more.

And then it seems really to never end.

But if you stop feeding it, eventually it dies down.

This is true of all, I think, all forms of violence.

And it goes back to the beginning of our discussion.

What is more fundamental, peace or war?

Violence or calmness?

And on the one hand, violence seems more fundamental because, you know, you can have, if you have quiet, if you have peace,

It's enough if one person starts shouting and the peace is shattered.

If you have a hundred people cooperating and one person starts fighting, you have violence.

So there is an imbalance in favor of violence and it seems to, in this sense, to be more real, more fundamental.

But there is a sense in which peace is more fundamental because violence always requires...

Food, investment, weapons, fuel, food for the soldiers.