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Yuval Noah Harari

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The Ezra Klein Show
Yuval Noah Harari on the Mistake Strongmen Keep Making

Now, if you are on Instagram, so you're basically holding your phone and doing snake, snake, snake, snake, snake.

The Ezra Klein Show
Yuval Noah Harari on the Mistake Strongmen Keep Making

And the algorithm simply hacked our evolutionary program.

The Ezra Klein Show
Yuval Noah Harari on the Mistake Strongmen Keep Making

They've hacked us.

The Ezra Klein Show
Yuval Noah Harari on the Mistake Strongmen Keep Making

And what we are seeing around us is just the beginning.

The Ezra Klein Show
Yuval Noah Harari on the Mistake Strongmen Keep Making

That as AI becomes more and more sophisticated, it will learn to hack us on a deeper and deeper level.

The Ezra Klein Show
Yuval Noah Harari on the Mistake Strongmen Keep Making

And if we don't fight back to defend ourselves, the consequences will be much, much worse.

The Ezra Klein Show
Yuval Noah Harari on the Mistake Strongmen Keep Making

They know, they learn our weaknesses, our emotional, our psychological, our social weaknesses, and how to use them to manipulate people.

The Ezra Klein Show
Yuval Noah Harari on the Mistake Strongmen Keep Making

So now social media algorithms, which are very, very primitive AIs, have discovered a few weaknesses in the human code, which they have hacked and now they manipulate us, causing us to spend hours and hours on Instagram or Facebook, even though we don't really want to.

The Ezra Klein Show
Yuval Noah Harari on the Mistake Strongmen Keep Making

You know, people, you know, after like spending an hour, two hours, they wake up and they say, why did I do that?

The Ezra Klein Show
Yuval Noah Harari on the Mistake Strongmen Keep Making

I plan to do something else with my time.

The Ezra Klein Show
Yuval Noah Harari on the Mistake Strongmen Keep Making

You were hacked.

The Ezra Klein Show
Yuval Noah Harari on the Mistake Strongmen Keep Making

You were manipulated.

The Ezra Klein Show
Yuval Noah Harari on the Mistake Strongmen Keep Making

And this is still, you know, just the very primitive AIs.

The Ezra Klein Show
Yuval Noah Harari on the Mistake Strongmen Keep Making

If we are not careful, we will be hacked on a much, much larger scale in the coming years as the AIs become not just far more manipulative, but also will develop their own goals.

The Ezra Klein Show
Yuval Noah Harari on the Mistake Strongmen Keep Making

You know, these social media algorithms, they're pursuing a very simple goal of just increasing user engagement on the platform.

The Ezra Klein Show
Yuval Noah Harari on the Mistake Strongmen Keep Making

As AIs become smarter than us, they will have their own goals.

The Ezra Klein Show
Yuval Noah Harari on the Mistake Strongmen Keep Making

Yes.

The Ezra Klein Show
Yuval Noah Harari on the Mistake Strongmen Keep Making

Yeah.

The Ezra Klein Show
Yuval Noah Harari on the Mistake Strongmen Keep Making

And I think this is a very, very important point because we are living in a moment when the battlefront is shifting from attention to intimacy.

The Ezra Klein Show
Yuval Noah Harari on the Mistake Strongmen Keep Making

How to build intimate relationships with human beings.